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RE: [IPk] Carb Counting in the UK



dear di, not all dietitians think that way - rest easy some of us are
out here to help find ways to make a near normal life easier.....
julette : )

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	email @ redacted [SMTP:email @ redacted]
> Sent:	27 October 1999 16:45
> To:	email @ redacted
> Subject:	Re: [IPk] Carb Counting in the UK
> 
> Paul
> Sadly it is true. They don't like carb counting over here because
> essentially "it's too complicated and unnecessary". Yes, we are going
> back into the dark ages :-(
> I brought this up at the diet workshop at a recent BDA conference.
> The dietician's answer?
> "If we taught people carb counting instead of healthy eating they'd
> all
> go off and eat Mars bars all the time instead of a balanced diet".
> My response (or at least a curtailed version):
> 1. At least their BG will be under control.
> 2. The sort of person who is going to just eat Mars bars isn't likely
> to be particularly bothered about carb counting anyway.
> 3. With carb counting you can eat like a "normal" person.
> 4. Non-diabetic people don't, as a rule, eat Mars bars all the time
> just because they know their body will automatically match their
> insulin intake to their carbs.
> Soon developed into a big argument. She admitted that it might work
> for some people, but wasn't prepared to agree that it shou;d be
> prescribed, rather than just "permitted".
> By this time my blood was boiling and it was just as well that it was
> lunchtime :-)
> It still gets me really wound up.
> And especially the fact that in balance they stopped printing the
> nutritional info with the recipes (or at least, they have now
> reinstated it, but grudgingly, for selected items, at the end of the
> whole
> recipe section.
> Di
> > 
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > It's been a while since I posted to the UK IP......
> > 
> > Anyway, I was in the UK last week to visit my family, my mum and I
> were
> > discussing her DM and in particular, Carb. Counting. She had told
> her doctor
> > that I used a pump and used carb counting to determine bolus' etc.
> The
> > doctor's response was, "A pump!, well you won't get one of those
> here and we
> > don't do carb. counting  here, don't listen to your son".
> > 
> > I was astonished, is this the norm in the UK? or is this just one
> individual
> > doctor still living in the dark ages?
> > 
> > During the two days I was with mum I accurately calculated her carbs
> and she
> > did shots as appropriate. Although we had to estimate her
> carb/insulin
> > ratio, overall her blood sugar control was much better.
> > 
> > Now mum thinks that what I have told her is the 'right' way to go,
> problem
> > is how to convince her doctor. Has anyone else experienced anyting
> similar
> > to this, and if so, what options does my mum have? At the moment,
> mum is on
> > a fixed regime of NPH and Regular.
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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