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Re: [IPk] Carbohydrates - good or bad?

Thanks for the info -
it's interesting hearing various points of view.
When it comes down to it - I guess it is also
a matter of what works for each individual -
but I like the idea of "all things in moderation".

Thanks again

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kentish, Julette <email @ redacted>
To: <email @ redacted>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: [IPk] Carbohydrates - good or bad?

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Neale [SMTP:email @ redacted]
> > Sent: 14 November 2000 11:50
> > To: email @ redacted
> > Subject: Re: [IPk] Carbohydrates - good or bad?
> > 
> > >    I have been reading excerpts from a book  called Diabetes
> > Solution by
> > >Richard Bernstein. There are several books now that promote a low
> > >carbohydrate, higher protein diet - and this is one specifically for
> > >diabetics.   Has anyone read this -  I'd be interested to know what
> > >peoples  experience of lowering their carbohydrate levels is? The
> > idea, so
> > >it says, is to reduce the ups  and downs of sugar levels - which
> > happens
> > >even on a pump - though much less than on  injections.   Thanks
> > Jennifer  
> > 
> > 
> [Kentish, Julette]   [Kentish, Julette]   Thanks for the below,
> I have been away and of course all my computer woes now too...how will I
> cope without one ready to hand... Anyway Wales was good for my brithday,
> just getting away was fab!...Back to the story... Of course dietitian's
> change their mind all the time. Experience and new developments do, it
> would be pretty fantastic if we all new it all already! 
> I have seen no clear medical studies with low carb diets. Most
> of the reason they result in weight loss is becuase they slowly will
> start to deplete your stored glycogen (stored glucose in your
> liver/muscles). Glycogen joins with water, so most of the weight which
> gets lost very quickly on these diets is water rather than fat! Water
> weights more than fat and so hence, you lose weight quickly. The
> difficulty is..we start to eat normally again and the weight goes back
> on..along with the water and glycogen. High saturated fat is not thought
> to be a good thing along with trans fats. Additionally, low carbohydrate
> diets tend to be higher in energy coming from fat and protein (which are
> often higher in saturated fats...) thus not always said to be good
> choices. 
> I am of the opinion that... if your diet is high in
> carbohydrates (50-60% energy) and you are overweight, you will find it
> difficult to lose weight (unless you are running that marathon... On a
> pump it is easier to be more exact with your bolus insulin requirements
> because you haven't necessarily got all that extra insulin (you don't
> need) floating around making you more hungry, risk of treating ++ hypo,
> etc..High carbohydrates still contain energy (less than fat, alcohol and
> slightly less than protein) and still need to be balanced as part of
> your energy balance equation (energy in vs energy expenditure), of
> course insulin can make you efficient at storing the glucose, but
> patients without diabetes also produce insulin and store
> food/carbohydrate if not expended. One of the best ways to try and
> counter everything is to balance your plate (main meal) with 2/5 veg,
> 2/5 carb and 1/5 protein portion. That way, you can hopefully be assured
> that you are getting your fill of nutrition (from other
> sources..vits/minerals etc..) ((and yes it does depend on what you are
> also eating at your other meals..)). Even though carbohydrates are
> filled with vitamins and minerals, eating more than you require to get
> these (ie: a whole plate of pasta or rice every night) will contain more
> energy than having a varied diet of say 3 new potatoes one night, and
> 1/2 plate of pasta the next.
> You have got to eat what is going to make you happy. Adjusting
> your insulin to suit a varied (but majorly) healthy diet is what is more
> important in the long-term. Anytime you are missing out or excluding
> major food categories is when you are going to run into long term
> problems.  Phew... Hope that helps and I am off my soapbox now for a few
> hours..
> Oh, I am updating the Diabetes Specialist Dietitians with these
> new ideas on Thusrday at our main annual meeting. I am trying
> ...really...
> Hope you are all well! 
> Best Wishes for those of you celebrating International Diabetes
> Day!! (how would you really??)
> Jules :)
> Julette Kentish
> Diabetes Research Dietitian
> Royal Bournemouth Hospital
> >  professional dieticians seem to change their tune about every 10
> > years,
> > which rings alarm bells in me. One decade it is low carb, high fat for
> > all.
> > Then it is high carb, high fibre, low fat for all. Then it is low
> > glycemic
> > index rather than high fibre. I tell you, I am thoroughly confused!
> > That's
> > why I eat all things in moderation.
> > 
> > Jules?
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > --
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> > http://www.webshowcase.net/johnneale
> > 
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