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Re: [IPk] How vulnerable are we?

Thatbs the spirit! 
 My stepmother, who is 80 and has secondary liver cancer, has decided to stop
having chemo (she was due for her 3rd round when the lockdown started). Shebs
far from bed-ridden and enjoys getting out for walks, gardening, and driving
around visiting people and places. She decided exactly that she wanted to live
rather than stay alive, and I agree with her. Unlike - sadly - my 79-year old
mother, who has very challenging age-related mental health issues (including
extreme paranoia and more recently, hallucinations) and does not want to live or
stay alive! Webve finally managed to get her into a care home from tomorrow.
Neither have diabetes incidentally.

 Everyone has different priorities. But seeing my Mum go through the last few
months, I definitely want to die living rather than end up in her situation
which is really quite horrific. She always said that too, but we canbt just
kill her now!

 > On 12 May 2020, at 11:39, Steve Boorman
<email @ redacted> wrote:
> Yes, thank you Di, go for it! I am over 70 which undoubtedly increases the
> risk (my partner works on immunology, and we don't understand why our
> immune responses to covid are less effective with age), but jogging round
> the common is essential. In the end, I am more interested in living than in
> staying alive, but am restrained by social responsibilities. I have no
> problem about managing my risk, but with viral infection, we have to manage
> other people's risk.
> Steve
> On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 09:03, Diana G Maynard <
> email @ redacted> wrote:
>> well yes, none of us want to get it, and I encourage everyone to abide by
>> government guidelines and keep away from others etc. But I donb t believe
>> we are
>> at higher risk than the rest of the population (if web re fit and healthy)
>> so I
>> meant simply that I wouldnb t be worried *because* we have diabetes, as
>> many
>> are. Most healthy people here are not shielding but just taking sensible
>> precautions. But yes, up to everyone to decide on their level of risk. My
>> control and mental health would be far worse if I didnb t go out daily for
>> proper exercise and fresh air
>> Di
>> Sent from my iPad
>>> On 12 May 2020, at 02:26, michael <email @ redacted> wrote:
>>> o;?I would not go as far as to say there is no need to self isolate. My
>>> daughter and her BF had Covid (New Yorkers) and both said it was
>>> really rough. They are 30-somethings. Daisy issues her conclusion as
>>> a molecular biologist so she has some insight into how the virus
>>> works and what the effects on her body mean. She said it was
>>> difficult to walk up the stairs for about a week, and it took several
>>> weeks after recovery for her to regain most of her former stamina.
>>> This is a kid that runs 4 miles a day for fun so "quite healthy" to
>>> start.
>>> I agree, most of us will recover OK from covid but there is no need
>>> to invite it by not adhering to social-distancing guide-lines. I'm
>>> sure I would recover from the season flu if I got it but I still get
>>> vaccinated every year to avoid infection and possible complications.
>>> Your mileage may very as they say....
>>> Michael
>>>> If you only have T1D and no other conditions (and are under 70 and
>>>> generally
>>>> healthy), thereb_s really no need to self-isolate unless you know you
>>>> have a particularly bad reaction to viruses etc. So I wouldnb_t worry
>>>> too much. Di
>>>>> On 7 May 2020, at 16:30, Ruth Gibbins
>>>> <email @ redacted> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Gema,
>>>>> Ib_ve been asking the same question! Ib_ve got Type 1, yes but
>>>> nothing else.
>>>> My
>>>>> husband and I both self isolated early March before the lockdown. I
>>>> was
>>>> unsure
>>>>> whether I should or not, but my hubby bless him is terrified that I
>>>> will get
>>>> it
>>>>> and die, and if he went out to the shops he would bring the virus
>>>> home, so
>>>> for a
>>>>> while we lived on what we had.
>>>>> Web_ve now got a local veg shop from 7 miles away delivering veg
>>>> locally once
>>>> a
>>>>> week. (we live in the Herefordshire countryside with only one local
>>>> post
>>>> office
>>>>> and general store 3 miles away.) Everything is washed on arrival in
>>>>> the porch and post is put into quarantine for 24hrs.
>>>>> Our neighbour is over 80 and also self isolating. Web_ve been able
>>>> to get
>>>> just
>>>>> the 2 Tesco deliveries for us and her, after I stayed up until
>>>>> midnight three
>>>>> days a week with no result, then logging in every couple of hours
>>>> for the
>>>> rest
>>>>> of the week. I eventually found a slot at 6am. Fortunately we heard
>>>> that a
>>>> local
>>>>> garden centre had started doing a shop and collect service, so we
>>>> pay online
>>>> and
>>>>> they give us a time to arrive - itb_s a bit hit and miss as to
>>>> whether
>>>> theyb_ve
>>>>> got what we asked for, and itb_s expensive but itb_s better than
>>>>> nothing. My
>>>>> husband wonb_t go to the local shop- itb_s tiny and they donb_t
>>>> limit
>>>> customers.
>>>>> Ib_ve seen some type 1b_s posting online that they are still going
>>>> to work
>>>> etc,
>>>>> but I feel web_ve been a bit left out in the cold - should I have
>>>> locked
>>>> myself
>>>>> away for 2 1/2 months? Ib_ve been busy - very busy, making scrubs
>>>>> for health
>>>>> workers which has kept me occupied but that seems to be winding
>>>> down a bit
>>>> now.
>>>>> Ib_ve been out on my bike round the country lanes and out for walks
>>>> but Ib_ve
>>>> no
>>>>> idea what itb_s like in the outside world, in fact I wonder how
>>>> Ib_ll cope
>>>> going
>>>>> back out again- Ib_ve no idea if we should wear masks or not, or how
>>>>> I should behave around others. I havenb_t much confidence in what
>>>>> the government are telling us, or if indeed we are at higher risk.
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