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[IPk] RE: Diabetes Dorf Althausen
I've done 2 "courses" in Germany. I suspect both of these places are a fair
distance from where you live, John, but I would certainly recommend the
Hamburg Bethanian Krankenhaus if you don't mind travelling that far. The
Althausen course looks really very thorough, I've not heard of it before.
I feel sometimes a bit guilty about saying too much about the German health
system in this group, because the situation (pump acceptance, availability
of funding) is so very different to the NHS. Makes me sometimes wonder
(seeing as the UK is part of the EU) whether any Britain has ever moved to
Germany just to get a pump and the training. Was it part of the reason for
you moving to Germany, John?
3 yrs ago I did the "Intensive Therapy" (pen) course in Hamburg, in
Bethanien Krankenhaus, led by prof. Dreyer. see
http://www.hkgev.de/kh/detail/frei/bethanie.htm I got put on 2 pens, with
Humalog and ummm something else, plus a Zinc-solution insulin overnight
because I had signs of the dawn effect.
They have a separate ward, really a separate building, which is more or less
owned by the diabetes training people, and they do courses ranging from
beginners, children, pens and pumps, and the diabetic "nurses" (the people i
believe who usually have best experience of diabetic treatment) are really
in charge. I did the 2 week course with about 10 others in a friendly
relaxed environment and learnt as much from the other people as from the
course, which included alot of theory about diabetes treatment as well as
practical stuff like we all went out for a meal in an Indian restaurant (one
of our party owned an Indian restaurant and helped us out with some of the
This course made me realise how little attention I'd been paying to my
diabetes and it suddenly clicked with me that I should and could take far
more responsibility for the diabetes than I had been doing.
Then 4 months ago I did a "pump" course in Krankenhaus Inneren Medizin in
Jena (previously part of East Germany) led by Dr Müller, see
http://www.uni-jena.de/med/kim4/Uebersicht.htm . I did a 10-day course with
3 others in the "normal" hospital ward, and we more or less went through a
book about pump treatment called "Es piept bei Dir" which comes from the
Dresden hospital treatment plan. As the department is not as big as the
Hamburg one, and perhaps because lots of the new East German hospitals are
still being reorganised and under resourced I did not find it as good as
hamburg, but the level of experience that the diabetic specialists had as
good enough and I feel very happy with the pump. I had to fight a bit with
the consultant to get exactly what I wanted in the end (a HTRON V+100 with
humalog, he wanted me to have a U40 pump with the equivalent of Aktrapid),
but I am very happy with the results.
> >From: John Neale <email @ redacted>
> >To: email @ redacted
> >Subject: Diabetes Dorf Althausen
> >Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 19:27:59 +0200
> >Trev -
> >Hi. When you joined ip-uk a while back, you said you were on a pump
> >training course. Was this the one at Althausen, run by Dr Teupe?
> >I'm thinking of going there myself, and I'm interested to know what you
> >know about this "Diabetes Dorf" place. I've read the stuff at
> >http://www.diabeticus.de/infos/teupe/ which was quite interesting.
> >Any comments or suggestions?
> >Thanks :-)
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