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Re: [IPk] stinging bolus



Says he, living on the lovely island of Jersey - that must be a tough one!

Estelle
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan J Wright <email @ redacted>
To: email @ redacted <email @ redacted>
Date: 21 May 1999 21:13
Subject: Re: [IPk] stinging bolus


>Will do, I talked to Joan and Rita about it when they were here and they
>told me that I had to keep in touch with them when I start playing so that
>I dont end up stuffing myself.
>
>On holiday, you must be earning far to much ;-)  Are you going somewhere
>nice (stupid question, your not going to go somewhere you dont like are
you) ?
>
>Have a good one, dont worry about us lot here in the rain and having to
>keep on working ;-(
>
>At 20:55 21/05/1999 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>>Nathan
>>
>>Take care with all that creatine - we don't want you looking like Mary
>>Pierce!!
>>
>>To all on the list I am off on hols for 2 weeks -any queries etc please
>>contact Estelle Lucas on 01203 531 338
>>
>>Best wishes
>>
>>John
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Nathan J Wright <email @ redacted>
>>To: email @ redacted <email @ redacted>
>>Date: 21 May 1999 20:14
>>Subject: Re: [IPk] stinging bolus
>>
>>
>>>I hope so, i really would like to get to 18 stone as muscle rather than
18
>>>stone of muscle and fat like I used to be.  I need to play around with
the
>>>time to take a bolus whilst training so that i can take a little carbs
>>>before training to stop the glycogen being produced (this happened last
>>>time and the BGs went thorough the roof).  Then if i get the timeing
right
>>>and I consume about 50 grams of maltodextrine with about 80 grams of
>>>protein straight after training i should be able to get the post training
>>>window to be blasted with carbs & protein to fill the muscles.  Also I am
>>>going to start taking Creatine Monohydrate again but not for a few months
>>>when i a fully happy with the pump as when i used to take creatine it
>>>seemed to wipe out any insulin in the body which is completely
>>>contradictory to all the research.  I found that if I took 25mg of
creatine
>>>with 120 units of insulin my BG would be sky high (1-5 hours after) and
>>>ketones would be +++ even though prior to taking creatine the BG would be
>>>lowish with no ketones.  I have to say the pump in the muscles and the
>>>fullness was out of this world.  The most I ever took was 40mg creatine
in
>>>one serving (the recommended is 5mg) with an extra 280 units of insulin
and
>>>guess what.  The same thing happened, hi BGs, ketones etc.  The
interesting
>>>thing was that if I took creatine and say 30 units of insulin, the same
>>>would happen but I would only need about 20-30 units to get the BG back
to
>>>normal and to get rid of the ketones.  40mg in one go caused a great pump
>>>that lasted for days but the stomach cramp was mad and the muscle was so
>>>pumped it was difficult to move.
>>>
>>>Anyway we will see what happens in a few months.
>>>
>>>
>>>At 10:54 21/05/1999 +0100, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Nathan
>>>>
>>>>Sadly as your insulin delivery more closely follows the non diabetic
>>>>physiological pattern you get the same problems we all have - if your
>>>>calorie intake is higher than your daily needs you will put weight on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The other thing that may happen is that as your can now make better use
of
>>>>your dietary intake and you are doing regular exercise you may put
weight
>>on
>>>>as muscle which is heavier than fat
>>>>
>>>>Best wishes John H
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Nathan J Wright <email @ redacted>
>>>>To: email @ redacted <email @ redacted>
>>>>Date: 21 May 1999 09:23
>>>>Subject: Re: [IPk] stinging bolus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Joan and Rita told me to expect my weight to go up again after things
had
>>>>>settled, but not by much.
>>>>>
>>>>>At 20:40 20/05/1999 +0100, you wrote:
>>>>>>Nat wrote:
>>>>>>>Yeah that sounds like a good idea, when i took the tender out there
was
>>a
>>>>>>>really big lump under the skin which seems to have gone now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>When I spoke to Joan she said the same as you and suggested taking 8
>>>>before
>>>>>>>eating, more during and some after if needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I tend to under-bolus before a meal, and then between courses or at
the
>>>>end
>>>>>>I'll do another catch up bolus based on what I know I've eaten.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Things are going a lot better lately since I really tightened up on
carb
>>>>>>counting. These last 3 days have been pure magic for me: I believe
I've
>>>>>>kept my bg between 4 and 10 the whole time. Eating whatever I want. No
>>>>mild
>>>>>>hypos. No peaks. That's unheard of for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But I have gained weight this last month as well. It may or may not be
>>>>>>connected to the accuate carb counting. Don't know. Just a few pounds
>>here
>>>>>>and a few pounds there... but it's creeping up. I lost about a stone
>>>>>>(that's 14 pounds for our American readers...) when I went on the
pump,
>>>>and
>>>>>>my face became much leaner. But I hope this isn't middle age spread
>>>>>setting it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>Natty
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>>>
>>>Natty
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>
>Natty
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