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Re: [IPk] stinging bolus



Nathan

Take care with all that creatine - we don't want you looking like Mary
Pierce!!

To all on the list I am off on hols for 2 weeks -any queries etc please
contact Estelle Lucas on 01203 531 338

Best wishes

John
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan J Wright <email @ redacted>
To: email @ redacted <email @ redacted>
Date: 21 May 1999 20:14
Subject: Re: [IPk] stinging bolus


>I hope so, i really would like to get to 18 stone as muscle rather than 18
>stone of muscle and fat like I used to be.  I need to play around with the
>time to take a bolus whilst training so that i can take a little carbs
>before training to stop the glycogen being produced (this happened last
>time and the BGs went thorough the roof).  Then if i get the timeing right
>and I consume about 50 grams of maltodextrine with about 80 grams of
>protein straight after training i should be able to get the post training
>window to be blasted with carbs & protein to fill the muscles.  Also I am
>going to start taking Creatine Monohydrate again but not for a few months
>when i a fully happy with the pump as when i used to take creatine it
>seemed to wipe out any insulin in the body which is completely
>contradictory to all the research.  I found that if I took 25mg of creatine
>with 120 units of insulin my BG would be sky high (1-5 hours after) and
>ketones would be +++ even though prior to taking creatine the BG would be
>lowish with no ketones.  I have to say the pump in the muscles and the
>fullness was out of this world.  The most I ever took was 40mg creatine in
>one serving (the recommended is 5mg) with an extra 280 units of insulin and
>guess what.  The same thing happened, hi BGs, ketones etc.  The interesting
>thing was that if I took creatine and say 30 units of insulin, the same
>would happen but I would only need about 20-30 units to get the BG back to
>normal and to get rid of the ketones.  40mg in one go caused a great pump
>that lasted for days but the stomach cramp was mad and the muscle was so
>pumped it was difficult to move.
>
>Anyway we will see what happens in a few months.
>
>
>At 10:54 21/05/1999 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>>Nathan
>>
>>Sadly as your insulin delivery more closely follows the non diabetic
>>physiological pattern you get the same problems we all have - if your
>>calorie intake is higher than your daily needs you will put weight on.
>>
>>
>>The other thing that may happen is that as your can now make better use of
>>your dietary intake and you are doing regular exercise you may put weight
on
>>as muscle which is heavier than fat
>>
>>Best wishes John H
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Nathan J Wright <email @ redacted>
>>To: email @ redacted <email @ redacted>
>>Date: 21 May 1999 09:23
>>Subject: Re: [IPk] stinging bolus
>>
>>
>>>Joan and Rita told me to expect my weight to go up again after things had
>>>settled, but not by much.
>>>
>>>At 20:40 20/05/1999 +0100, you wrote:
>>>>Nat wrote:
>>>>>Yeah that sounds like a good idea, when i took the tender out there was
a
>>>>>really big lump under the skin which seems to have gone now.
>>>>>
>>>>>When I spoke to Joan she said the same as you and suggested taking 8
>>before
>>>>>eating, more during and some after if needed.
>>>>
>>>>I tend to under-bolus before a meal, and then between courses or at the
>>end
>>>>I'll do another catch up bolus based on what I know I've eaten.
>>>>
>>>>Things are going a lot better lately since I really tightened up on carb
>>>>counting. These last 3 days have been pure magic for me: I believe I've
>>>>kept my bg between 4 and 10 the whole time. Eating whatever I want. No
>>mild
>>>>hypos. No peaks. That's unheard of for me.
>>>>
>>>>But I have gained weight this last month as well. It may or may not be
>>>>connected to the accuate carb counting. Don't know. Just a few pounds
here
>>>>and a few pounds there... but it's creeping up. I lost about a stone
>>>>(that's 14 pounds for our American readers...) when I went on the pump,
>>and
>>>>my face became much leaner. But I hope this isn't middle age spread
>>>setting it!
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>Natty
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>
>Natty
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