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RE: [IPk] diabetes question, not pump related

Thanks Di

 Well she's not come to me yet (school nurse will let her know I'm here if she
needs to chat) but the school nurse has come to me, just to pick my brains a bit
and check and she said she herself didn't know anything about not exercising
when high bgs and the girl hasn't been told and there was nothing on the piece
of paper the nurse brought about exercise or anything (a nurse did visit our
school nurse with mum and dad and daughter)

 Yeah, I don't want to barge in or contradict anythign she's been told but my
heart went out to her when I heard because first of all I thought how awful to
have just heard those words and now to be faced with things you may not
understand and it didn't seem as though she'd had much help. I felt for her
being 17 and didn't want her getting higher if she was doing exercise! That'll
muck her up for the rest of the day, evening and night.

-----Original Message-----
 From: email @ redacted [mailto:email @ redacted] On Behalf Of
Diana Maynard
Sent: 30 January 2014 15:13
To: email @ redacted
Subject: Re: [IPk] diabetes question, not pump related

Hi Clare
 I'm afraid it's pretty normal (in some hospitals, though not all). At least
she's on MDI and testing though (many people are still put on twice daily
pre-mixed insulin when first diagnosed!). A lot of hospitals do work on the
basis of keeping things simple at first, especially with children, though some
are more enlightened. It sounds as if she is at least coming to you for help, so
personally I would just explain some basic principles to her (such as WHY she
needs to eat carbs before PE, and therefore why if her BG is high, she doesn't).
Obviously you don't want to contradict her medical team, or stand on anyone's
toes, but I would certainly explain some simple things to her if she comes to

On 30/01/14 14:07, Hayward, Clare (SUT) wrote:
> Hi all
>   Hope you don't mind me posting something here that's not pump
> related but
 > diabetes related as I wanted to get your thoughts/advice/take on this
  > A young girl at school (14 years) was diagnosed 2 weekends ago, in hospital
> a drip, quite poorly I believe (get this - doctor knew she'd lost a
> lot of weight, she was going to the toilet a lot, drinking a lot) - he
> didn't do a
  > finger prick test!! They waited over a week to go to surgery to get a blood
> done!!
> Anyhow, moving on - she's back in school this week
  > She's been put on 4 injections of 4 units per day, assume they're sorting
> out
 > At school today running a bg of 17 after breakfast but hospital won't do any
> changes (yet). She also hasn't been told about exercise, carb counting
> or anything like that
> She had double pe today.
>   She's been advised to snack BEFORE PE but if she's at 17, a) she'll
> go even higher and b) not really safe to exercise being that high but
> nobody seems to have told her
> Is this normal way of teaching about diabetes when you first get it?
  > Are they just doing one thing at a time and getting her used to it before
> start mucking around with doses, how could you not be carb counting to
> even vaguely match insulin?
  > Am I missing something? Ijust feel that I had such good care when I first
got > it and it seemed although I was only 12, a great deal of things were
explained > and gone over. I know I spent over 2 weeks in hospital and nowadays
they can't
> afford that but ..... am I hopelessly outdated?
  > I know I don't know all the facts and what she's been promised she'll learn
> ...............
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