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Re: [IPk] extreme low carb diet



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This may seem like a silly question, but how much time does he spend 
with DK=
A or in Ketosis?

That could cause the muscle wasting.

> On 19 Feb 2014, at 10:14, Nanette Freedman <email @ redacted> wr=
ote:
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> Yes, he's been showing visible signs of muscle atrophy over several
> years, and has had umpteen tests but as far as he's been told, none of
> these tests have revealed an obvious cause for the condition. My
> brother is highly intelligent and articulate, though entirely
> non-scientific and non-technical in his background - given what I know
> well about lack of good communication within the NHS, I sometimes
> wonder about what is really going on.
> Nanette
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>> On 19 February 2014 11:57, Diana Maynard 
<email @ redacted> wrote=
:
>> Hi Nanette
>> Is he showing signs of muscle atrophy? Or are you worried that 
that might=

>> result from a low carb diet?
>> Di
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On 19/02/14 09:52, Nanette Freedman wrote:
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>>> I don't want to do this - for all the reasons that you state, and 
a
>>> few more besides (like chocolate and other carbs that I enjoy 
eating).
>>> I myself have tried lowish carb diet with benefit to my BG's, but 
alas
>>> so far have never succeeded in sticking to them for long.
>>> But I have a brother who is drawn to extreme lifestyle options. 
And
>>> one of those that he has adopted over the last several years is a 
very
>>> low carb diet (probably not lower than Bernstein now - he told me 
that
>>> he's modified his original version somewhat!), combined with an
>>> assortment of large amounts (probably never properly tried and 
tested)
>>> of various herbs and spices recommended by an alternative 
medicine
>>> practitioner which may well alter absorption of nutrients.
>>> My brother's wife is worried about him, and I'm worried about him 
too
>>> - and since surpisingly enough he sometimes still listens to his 
older
>>> sister, I'm trying to see what I can do to persuade him to make 
at
>>> least minor changes for the better (can't hope for more than 
that).
>>> So I am grateful for all input.
>>> Nanette
>>>=20
>>> On 19 February 2014 11:19, Joel Milner 
<email @ redacted> wrote=
:
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Does anyone know anything about potential adverse effects of 
a very
>>>>=20
>>>> extreme low carb diet (more extreme than Bernstein)?
>>>>=20
>>>> IIRC the Bernstein diet is pretty low carb as it is (??? <30 g 
per
>>>> day???).
>>>>=20
>>>> Most plant-derived foods contain some carbs, even something as 
apparent=
ly
>>=20
>>>> innocuous as lettuce or broccoli has a few carbs, so if you are 
going t=
o
>>>> go
>>>=20
>>> to
>>>>=20
>>>> less than Bernstein, you are going to have to cut back all plant-
derive=
d
>>=20
>>>> foodstuffs, running the risk of deficiencies in micronutrients, 
vitamin=
s
>> etc.
>>>>=20
>>>> Also, there's not much fibre in a skinless chicken fillet.
>>>>=20
>>>> Why would you want to do this?
>>>>=20
>>>> Joel
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