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Re: [IPk] funny turn today whilst driving



Hi Tricia and Nanette
This is simply what I have been told whether mistaken or not
 I have had a few Tias myself including recently as had a friend of mine who was
told the same
 Obviously there are other syndromes it could be and perhaps the gp checked it
carefully but I still think you need a specialist
 Tias and getting urgent assessment are high profile at the moment unlike
cardiology for example-a severe shortage of experienced consultants I am told
Best
 Christine 




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On 23 Dec 2013, at 11:06, Nanette Freedman <email @ redacted> wrote:

> Hi Christine and others,
> 
> I don't believe the definition of a TIA varies from place to place.
> And what makes it a TIA (transient ischaemic attack) is that the
> symptoms are transient. But this does not necessarily mean that there
> are no related findings on eeg or CT or MRI images - there may or may
> not be - this is why these tests may be done.
> 
> I agree with you that one should see an expert, but wanted to make the
> point that not all 'funny turns' are TIA's or strokes - which indeed
> might require quick initiation of treatment. But Tricia was checked
> immediately by an experienced and careful GP who ruled out the
> symptoms of a TIA or stroke - if there had been anything suspicious
> she no doubt would have been referred urgently for further
> investigation rather than 'wait and see'. So if I understood
> correctly, she was wondering about diabetes related conditions which
> might cause these sort of symptoms.
> 
> Tricia, (apologies for writing about you in the third person and as
> 'she' in the previous paragraph) thinking along non-stroke lines, did
> they do any blood tests to check that your electrolytes and other
> things were in the normal range? one can have weird episodes due to
> electrolyte imbalance. Did you recently change any medications?
> anything else you did differently? do you often drink strong coffee?
> 
> Nanette
> 
> On 23 December 2013 12:15, Christine Bousfield <email @ redacted> wrote:
>> Hi Nanette
>> And Tricia
>> The definition of a Tia here at least is obviously various symptoms but no
>> showing on ct scan and EEG
>> 24 hours later
 >> Nanette saw an expert but so should you Tricia so you can start medication
if
>> necessary
>> Best
>> Christine
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 23 Dec 2013, at 09:22, Nanette Freedman <email @ redacted>
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Tricia,
>>> 
>>> Do get it checked out further, but remember that not everything is a
>>> TIA or stroke. Do you think you were shaky because finding yourself
>>> driving without control was so scary, or because of the 'funny turn'?
>>> It might or might not be a bit like something that happened to me
>>> years ago, and was not a TIA or stroke - nothing showed up on CT or
>>> eeg.
>>> It was a sort of 'absence' - unlike you I was not aware - possibly a
>>> type of mini-seizure, although nothing showed on the eeg. And the
>>> results were worse in practice than yours though, since it happened
>>> when I had just got into the car after work in an indoor carpark, I
>>> remember starting the car, then reaching out my hand to switch on the
>>> car radio, then next thing I knew the car drove quite gently into a
>>> pillar in the carpark - I had driven just a few yards, apparently on
>>> 'automatic pilot', towards the exit from the car park, and had turned
>>> left as if I were parked in my usual place - in fact I was parked in a
>>> slightly different spot, so went into the pillar - probably just as
>>> well. And I had checked my BG just 5 minutes before and checked again
>>> immediately after, so know it was not due to being hypo.
>>> I went to see a top neurologist (one of those times when it is an
>>> advantage to work in a hospital), and he was the one who described it
>>> as an 'absence', which fitted so well with my experience, said such
>>> things can happen, that the longer time elapses without it recurring
>>> the more likely that it won't ever recur - it's now 9 years ago, and
>>> thankfully no recurrence. I did drive home very cautiously immediately
>>> after it happened, but didn't drive for a while after - but returned
>>> to it eventually, though I have to confess that I am still sometimes
>>> haunted by what happened then, and how it could have been so much
>>> worse.
>>> Best of luck getting it sorted out
>>> Nanette
>>> 
>>> On 22 December 2013 22:25, cherrycottage <email @ redacted> wrote:
>>>> Does anyone have any ideas? About 11am today Sunday I was doing a right
> turn
>>> in
>>>> the car and had a funny turn. I wasn't unconscious, but knew I had no
>>> control. I
 >>>> did stop the car nearish to the kerb and put on the hazard lights. what
was
>>>> possibly a few minutes later It passed but I. felt shaky and felt a bit
>>> weird..
>>>> My BG was 11.2 I had gone to church on a large tea and a 6g biscuit and no
>>> bolus
>>>> as i was keeping an eye on my basal.
>>>> After church I had a strongish coffee.
>>>> 
>>>> After the episode, I drove about 500 yards back home very cautiously.
>>>> 
>>>> I still felt weird so we went to the non-A and E department to check if it
>>> was
>>>> a mini stroke as my family history suggested that.
>>>> 
>>>> An excellent experienced GP there did all the checks and said it wasn't a
>>>> stroke and just to keep any eye on it. No driving today.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have any ideas?  could it have been diabetes related?
>>>> Happy Christmas
>>>> Tricia Barker
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