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Re: [IPk] Exam Stress/ management

Hi Sarah,
I agree too.
And had the same issue with life insurance for our mortgage - I really
freaked out. However in the end the mortgage bank agreed to accept my
husband's previous existing substantial life insurance to guarantee
our mortgage, and did not require that I had some too.
I don't know if that can be done in England.
Best of luck with it

On 27 April 2011 13:13, Sarah Haywood <email @ redacted> wrote:
> I agree whole heartedly Di! We have so many restrictions forced upon us and I
 > definitely do seem to spend a fair amount of time telling people that I can
>  pretty much what I like in my life, I just need to plan ahead more than most
> and
> be aware that things aren't always as straight forward as they might be for a
> "normal" person!
 > One example of being restricted (kind of )I have experienced recently is that
> my
> husband and I are in the process of moving house and we have had to take out
> life insurance for our mortgage. Seeing as I have pretty good control and no
> major complications (only background retinopathy) I thought that I my premium
> wouldnt be loaded too heavily..... when they came back with my quote they had
 > loaded my premilu by 225%!!!! When I questioned them about this, they said
>  it was beacuse my HbA1c was over 7% (it is 7.3%), I have been diagnosed for
> over
> 15 years (15 years and 1 month) and I have background retinopathy (hasnt
 > everyone after 15 years od diagnosis??) I was sooo cross, I asked them if
> took into consideration the fact that I exercise daily,  have very low
> cholesterol, normal BP, healthy BMI, few hypos, etc etc, in fact I am the
> fittest person I know... And they said that the important things were HbA,
> length of diagnosis and any complications.
> So yes, it makes me cross too when people use diabetes as an excuse!
> Sarah
> ________________________________
> From: Diana Maynard <email @ redacted>
> To: email @ redacted
> Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 10:50:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [IPk] Exam Stress/ management
>  I'm going to be controversial here. But this is a genuine concern. And of
> course
> everyone is different in their needs - I'm not criticising anyone for their
> behaviour here.
 > First of all, I'm aware that things are rather different these days for kids
> school, and that of course, nobody wants their exam results to be affected by
 > their health. But when I see people asking for such special treatment (and
 > not just talking about diabetes, I know there are a lot of other health
 > where people also request special treatment) I find it unsurprising that
>  with diabetes are not always treated equally and that people impose
> restrictions
> on us (such as the old driving licence issue, jobs such as firefighters and
 > pilots and so on, "dangerous activities" such as scuba diving and so on,
> people have fought to be allowed to do despite diabetes, even just potential
 > employers wary about taking on a person with diabetes). We spend half our
 > convincing people that we're just as capable as anyone without diabetes and
 > shouldn't be restricted, but then we turn round and say "I need do my exam at
 > certain time of day and I need extra time if such and such happens and I need
> special room to do it in". If we're fighting a fire we can't suddenly say
> "sorry, I need a bit of extra time, my blood sugar's high and I can't think
> straight" or if we're saving a life as a medic we can't suddenly say "Sorry I
> let that person die, but my blood sugar was low, can I do it again when I
 > haven't been within an hour of a bolus?" Of course, that's a bit extreme, but
> in
>  almost any job we have to make decisions which could affect people's lives,
> lose
> our company large sums of money, and so on. Whether our blod sugar is high or
 > low. After all, if you can only perform well enough in an exam under
 > conditions, how does that look to an employer? Somehow, I think we have to
> some kind of balance between proving we're as good as everyone else, but
 > minimising risk of problems. It may mean we have to work a bit harder or
> so that we can take the time to test and deal with errant blood sugars, but
 > isn't that the case with normal life as a diabetic? We constantly have to
> with life / jobs / family / travel / whatever when our blood sugars aren't
>  perfect. If I wake up with a blood sugar of 19, having had a massive hypo in
> the
> night and only got 4 hours sleep as a result (as I did today) and I've got a
> meeting at 9am, I'm going to have to go to that meeting feeling like a used
> teabag. sorry, but that's life.
 > As I said, everyone's different, but personally I want no special treatment
> exams or anything else because I'm diabetic. I spend my life proving that
 > diabetics can do (almost) anything that normal people can do. So personally,
> frustrates me when I see people asking for special treatment. The one that
> always infuriates me is the restaurant scenario "I'm a diabetic and my blood
 > sugar's low so please serve me first." Yes I've heard many people come out
> this. That's what glucose tablets are for.....
> </rant>
> Di
> On 26/04/2011 23:58, Karen Persov wrote:
>> We have put a lot of thought into exam taking and diabetes management, and
>> although not ideal, these are my daughter Sarah's views and protocols:
>> 1. Stop the clock is essential: It is far more useful for a low than a
>> high.. a low can be corrected usually within 15 to 20 minutes.. and she can
>> get back on track.. whilst a high takes a few hours for the insulin to work
>> and leaves her lethargic and affects vision.
>> 2. A bad hypo .although not welcomed..is something more
>> considered/understood as a medical emergency, so if really necessary, would
>> warrant a re-take of the exam or extra marks if borderline. (there's always
>> the chance of the type II  invigilator (or whose great grandmother is
>> "diabetic" ) who thinks being 15 or something is ok),Therefore aim low.
>> (under 7).. and keep a sweet drink for sipping throughout the exam (as well
>> as snacks).
>> 3. Adrenaline and other stress hormones are counter-regulatory anyway, so a
>> dangerous low/hypo during exams is less likely anyway, so avoid over
>> -correcting if a little low with insulin on board. Most
>> people experience some stress/anxiety during exams regardless of whether
>> they think they are stressed.
>> 4. Routine is essential during exams... get timetables in advance and plan,
>> if necessary arrange to sit exams earlier/later (you have a separate room,
>> so this shouldn't be an issue), so that snack times and meal times are
>> constant during exam periods (this is more manageable and removes some
>> variables). where possible, try to sit the exam more than 1.5 hours after a
>> bolus..so insulin has peaked and you have a reliable test prior to the exam.
>> 5. Don't be hesitant to use the "stop the clock".. it is there for the
>> purpose... and so what if it gives the odd advantage sometime.. life is hard
>> enough.. ...
>> 6. At least plus 50% basals for at least 2 hours before the exam,  plus more
>> insulin pre-meals along with regular frequent testing.. again use the stop
>> the clock to test.. take out 5 mins each hour, check blood glucose...and
>> write it down, so it helps plan for the next exam.
>> 7. Always make sure the site/canula is working ..which is another reason to
>> try to schedule exams one and half a hours after bolus.
>> Good luck..
>> Karen Persov
 >> Mum to Sarah aged 14, diagnosed 13 years ago ..HbA1c today 6.6% (Animas2020
>> and Dexcom7plus) (also hypothyroid plus other autoimmune stuff... and David
>> (age 19) ..First year Medical Student at UCL.
>> .
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