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Re: [IPp] Re: [IPp] Re: [IPp] 504 Question

I highly recommend getting a copy of "Helping the Student with Diabetes 
Succeed: A Guide for School Personnel." It is a document published by the US 
Dept. of Health and Human Services so the schools can't really argue the 
legality of it. Among other things is says things like: ".. it is medically 
preferable to permit
students to check their blood glucose level and respond to the results in 
the classroom, at any other campus location, or at any school activity."

Here is a link:


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <email @ redacted>
To: "Beverly P White" <email @ redacted>; 
<email @ redacted>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:12 PM
Subject: [IPp] Re: [IPp] Re: [IPp] 504 Question

> Thanks Beverly
> I already started to file the complaint. Now I am writing up a new 504 to 
> deal
> with this new crap. This time i am pulling the 504 right from the ADA, 
> CWD, and
> anywere I can find one already done that best fits Justins needs. The 504 
> in the
> past were modifyed to fit the schools policy, but I am fed up and I'm not
> playing around with the school any more. I will admit, I am a bit scared 
> it will
> have a back lash on Justin.
> Gina Mom of Justin
> Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Beverly P White" <email @ redacted>
> Date: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 2:14 pm
> Subject: [IPp] Re: [IPp] 504 Question
> To: <email @ redacted>
> I am not sure if what you are reading - other states are addressed as
> well....this is what it says about CTAs for the administration of 
> medication,
> such as insulin, Connecticut law provides that, a school nurse, or in her
> absence, any other licensed nurse, the school principal, any teacher, 
> licensed
> school occupational or physical therapist, or school coach may administer
> medications to students at a school pursuant to the written order of a
> licensed physician, APRN, physician assistant, or dentist and with the 
> written
> authorization of the child's parent or guardian. The law allows 
> administration
> of all types of medications, including controlled substances. If medicine 
> is
> administered by anyone other than the school nurse, it must be done under 
> the
> nurse's general supervision. All of the authorized individuals have civil
> immunity for their actions relative to the administration of medication, 
> with
> the exception of gross, willful or wanton negligence.
> If it were me, I would call the national Office of Civil Rights and file a
> complaint - it is public school and they have to reasonably accommodate
> students with health issues.
> --- On Sat, 10/2/10, email @ redacted
> <email @ redacted> wrote:
> From: email @ redacted <email @ redacted>
> Subject: [IPp] Re: [IPp] 504 Question
> To: "Mary Donovan" <email @ redacted>,
> email @ redacted
> Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 1:05 PM
> Thank You Beverly and Mary for your quick responces and the link. I have
> read
> it over and what I am getting from this link is that CT is not following 
> the
> safe at school act, infact every thing the nurse has said to me is infact 
> in
> the
> link. the links pritty much says that the only thing the school is 
> allowing
> is
> kids that are capable be allowed to test themself and do self meds. As far 
> as
> nurse Only a nurse can give meds. If she were to be out of school, then 
> the
> school is allowed to test blood sugars, and treat lows with juice or food.
> However the schools cannot give a glucogon shot. If you read the link
> carefully
> it says that the only shot the schools is allowed to give is a spring 
> loaded
> allery shot to children with allergys needing an EpiPen. Isn't it the 
> schools
> responsabilty to fix any loop holes there are in the system?
> Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Mary Donovan" <email @ redacted>
> Date: Fri, Oct 1, 2010 11:14 pm
> Subject: [IPp] 504 Question
> To: <email @ redacted>
> This page that Bev found directly contradicts what you have been told by 
> the
> school, Gina.
> --- On Fri, 10/1/10, Beverly P White <email @ redacted> wrote:
> From: Beverly P White <email @ redacted>
> Subject: Re: [IPp] 504 Question
> To: email @ redacted
> Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 7:49 PM
> I don't know who told you that was the law but that is not what I find in
> doing a search...http://www.cga.ct.gov/2008/rpt/2008-R-0111.htm  I am
> guessing
> the school told you that and as usual they don't have a clue...hope this
> helps
> --- On Fri, 10/1/10, email @ redacted
> <email @ redacted> wrote:
> From: email @ redacted <email @ redacted>
> Subject: [IPp] 504 Question
> To: "email @ redacted"
> <email @ redacted>
> Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 7:14 PM
> The state law here in CT says that only a trained Nures is allowed to 
> threat
> and give Meds to diabetics including glucogon to children in school. So 
> the
> department of health provide the schools with there nurses here in CT. 
> Since
> justin started school here in K, I have been having problems with Justin
> school
> nurse and health department. The nurse offten comes in late, as well as 
> often
> Calling out sick. There is no other person in the school trained to care 
> for
> Justin, because it not allowed, and there have been many times I had stay 
> in
> school with him in school or he has had to miss al together cause of there
> being
> no nurse in the building. On top of this, this year the school is trying 
> to
> make
> it so I can no longer tweek justins insulin ratios. I can also no longer 
> ask
> the
> nurse to do an extra blood test cause the Nurse is no longer allowed to 
> take
> orders from me. And other things there trying to change. I wrote a letter 
> to
> Super Intendents of schools filing a formal complain agenst health
> department.
> Its been 2 weeks. I have heard nothing back yet. I called the school this
> week
> cause I want a new 504 meeting to amend the current 504, But no one has
> called
> me back. So today the nurse calls me, after school was over, to ask if I 
> had
> ajusted Justins insulin cause Justin had many lows today at school. I said 
> no
> cause i really have not. And told he could be coming down with a belly 
> bug. I
> asked about if she had heard of a letter I had written. she said yes. I 
> also
> told her that I had called the school for a new 504 meeting. She said, she
> knows
> cause the principle had told her. She also said that the school has 
> nothing
> to
> do with this because the health department is not part of the school, and 
> she
> wasnt sure that the health department has to even follow Justins 504. What 
> a
> fecken loop hole here. Anyway, heres my Question, isnt the health 
> department
> really just doing the schools a favor, and if the health department fails 
> to
> provide proper care then the they the school still must care for Justin
> according to the law? Doesnt the school have to still follow the 504? I 
> guess
> I
> have been fighting with the wrong department and my fight should be with 
> the
> school. I already call ADA and all they did was send me a packet. Not much
> help
> at all.
> Gina mom of Justin pumping revel.
> Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide
> .
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