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Re: [IPp] Dawn Phenom...

my daughter (same age as you son, born 6/99) does the same thing.  I have
adjusted her basals but I still haven't gotten it right.  If I correct her
for 200-250 at 2 AM she WILL be low at 5 AM.  If I let her stay at 200-250,
her 5 AM BG is fine.  It will take a while to fine tune everything, but I am
zoning in on it.  Be careful to do little adjustments at a time!

Cara, Mom to Codi Lynn,3, dxd at 2, paradigm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leanne Dalton" <email @ redacted>
To: <email @ redacted>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:22 PM
Subject: RE: [IPp] Dawn Phenom...

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> Gosh -- I thought I was the only one???
> My son, who is 3 1/2 just started on the pump last week (yay!!) but now
> I'm able to confirm what I've known intuitively for some time.
> Anyway, Oliver's blood sugars ALWAYS rise until about 2AM or so (and
> they rise like crazy -- to above 20 mmol/L even if he went to bed in
> range) and then between 2-6AM the BGs fall to the point where he's just
> about to go low at 6:30 or 7:00 in the morning, which is a heck of a
> drop (the steepest part of the fall is between 4-6 as you have described
> with your daughter).
> We are just starting to work out his basals, so I haven't yet figured
> out what to do with it (I've been experimenting with a higher basal rate
> from 7pm to 1am and then lowering it from 1am to 6am, but it's just a
> first crack at it and Oliver's been sick with flu so I can't really say
> if it's working yet).
> Anyway, just thought I'd respond as I too was thinking that Oliver was
> the only person in the world with "early" dawn response!
> Leanne
> Mom of Oliver, b 6/99, dx'd 10/01
> -----Original Message-----
> From: email @ redacted
> [mailto:email @ redacted] On Behalf Of Cheri
> McCurdy
> Sent: January 14, 2003 8:14 AM
> To: email @ redacted; email @ redacted
> Subject: [IPp] Dawn Phenom...
> I am posting this to both lists in hopes of satisfying my curiosity?!
> I think my daughter has reverse dawn phenom. She goes high when she
> first
> goes to sleep at night so I have been making adjustments to nighttime
> basals for several weeks trying to leverl her nightime bgs out.  She is
> getting from 1.0 to 1.1 from 9 p.m. to 12 p.m. We decrease from there to
> about .6 at 4-6 a.m.  Anyone else experiencing this?  Amelia is growing
> and maturing at a rapid rate. She is 9 1/2.
> Just curious?
> Cheri McCurdy
> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:08:02 EST
> From: email @ redacted
> Subject: Re: [IP] Dawn Phenom...
> John,
> My Joshua has DP and his rates run 0.8 from 4-8 AM.  He is 11 and IPer 3
> years now.  All his rates increase as he grows.  He is in early stages
> of
> puberty now as well.  Don't forget that the basal rate you have this
> hour
> doesn't start to affect your BGs for about 90-180 minutes later.  See
> INSULIN by John Walsh, 3rd edition if you don't have it already.  He
> talks
> all about this.  Anyway, with the delayed reaction, plan on starting
> your
> DP
> basal rate a few hours before you think your liver starts to kick in. !
> I
> think it is around 5:30 AM for Josh.
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> Sylvia
> mom to Joshua
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