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Re: [IP] New Affordable Care US health plans will exclude top hospitals



 But they do want me to register, and I woud prefer nit to do that. Can you post
the relevant part that says the law prohibits the hospitals from being included
in the insurance plans?

Stacey M

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> On Dec 9, 2013, at 11:22, "John S Wilkinson" <email @ redacted> wrote:
> 
> This was the ACA  and the hospitals. Not Insurance Companies.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: email @ redacted
> [mailto:email @ redacted] On Behalf Of Stacey Martin
> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 10:43 AM
> To: email @ redacted
> Subject: Re: [IP] New Affordable Care US health plans will exclude top
> hospitals
> 
> I can't read the article because I won't pay for it, but...
> 
> Beginning? My old Oxford plan excluded the top regional hospital in my
> area.
> Had nothing to do with the ACA or rationing, only to do with insurance
> companies and hospitals not agreeing on a contract.
> 
> A couple of thoughts:
> 
> Nothing limits access to health care more than not having insurance.  
> 
> Health insurance that most people have had for the last 20 years or more
> -HMO, PPO, EPO, etc., always has had things it doesn't cover, doctors not in
> the plan, preferred medications, etc.
> 
> Rationing means that you can only have x amount of something. There is
> nothing in the ACA that prevents anyone from going to whatever doctor or
> hospital they want or buying whatever and however many test strips they
> want, etc. It just may not be paid for by insurance. Those with lots of
> money will generally have better insurance with better coverage and will
> have more money to buy what insurance doesn't cover.
> 
> Is it rationing that not everyone will have the same? Be careful of your
> answer, since if you say it's rationing and rationing us wrong, then you are
> advocating for universal health care - Medicare for all! (And even then
> those with more money will probably have better care).
> 
> Cars are rationed according to price, as are houses, sneakers, food, etc.,
> etc., etc. if it's so awful that health care is rationed by price, then
> let's do away with private insurance altogether. But that wouldn't do away
> with rationing since there would likely still be secondary and supplemental
> plans.
> 
> Stacey
> 
> 
> Stacey M
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:30, Urb Anism <email @ redacted> wrote:
>> 
>> SUPER delete, but please: stop, LOL!
>> 
>>> On Monday, December 9, 2013, John S Wilkinson wrote:
>>> 
>>> The beginning of rationing.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> December 8, 2013 5:51 pm
>>> 
>>> New Affordable Care US health plans will exclude top hospitals
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/994951f8-5e71-11e3-8621-00144feabdc0.html#a
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