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[IPu] IP AUS Only ? / NDSS Infusion Subsidy One day ... ?



Hi Allan,
Are there people here who only belong to the AUS IP site and not the main US
site ? (I thought you were transferring them over last month) ?

I rang DA NSW and Nationally the week before Christmas .. although they said
negotiations were progressing, they could not provide any likely dates for
Infusions to go onto the NDSS system.  Of course going on holidays to NZ can
be helpful ....

Janette

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Reed" <email @ redacted>
To: <email @ redacted>
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:29 AM
Subject: [IPu] Do you count protines?


> An interesting message from the main list.
> Any comments?
> All the best for the new year including (I hope) low cost infusion sets
and
> syringes.
> Alan Reed Admin.
> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 19:57:35 -0500
> From: Shaun Oakey <email @ redacted>
> Subject: [IP] Advice sought from those who count protein
>
> A couple of months ago I started experimenting with including a portion of
> protein in my carbo count, and giving an ordinary pre-meal bolus. My blood
> sugars immediately improved dramatically -- not that they were awful
before,
> but many more of my numbers are now in my target range.
>
> My problem is, I now often go low after meals where I've counted the
> protein. I started out calculating that 60% of protein eventually converts
> to carbohydrate/glucose, but then, with the lows, reduced that to 50%. I
> also toyed around with square waves of various lengths (2, 2 1/2, and 3
> hours), and I go low less often but, if I do go low, it's later. The
> insulin-to-carb ratio works for no-protein or low-protein meals, so it's
not
> like I'm just giving myself too much insulin in general. I'm not sure what
> to do next and wonder if anyone with more experience can point the way.
>
> Is there a common cut-off point below which you don't bother counting the
> protein? I don't currently count, say, 1 egg (equivalent to 4 g CHO) or 1
> ounce of cheese, since the effect on blood sugar is going to be delayed
and
> minimal, but I'd figure it in if I was having 3 or more eggs, or, like
last
> night, lots of chicken wings (8 baked wings at an average weight of 36 g
and
> at 9 g protein per wing means 72 g protein total, and 50% of that is 36 g
> included in the carbo count).
>
> Do you have separate insulin-to-carb ratios for meals with protein and
meals
> without protein?
>
> Should I extend the square wave beyond 3 hours?
>
> Should I further reduce the amount of protein I'm counting, to 40%, and if
> I'm still going low, to 30%, etc.? (This seems to me the least logical
> solution.)
>
> Thanks for any advice,
> Shaun
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