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Re: [IP] nighttime basals

Hi Debbie,
Don't ever think any of your questions about diabetes are dumb, there are so
many factors that play a role in why blood surgars go up and down we will
never have all the answers. Ask anything anytime and you will always get
great answers here.
Good Luck
-----Original Message-----
From: debbie jones <email @ redacted>
To: email @ redacted <email @ redacted>
Date: Friday, October 22, 1999 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [IP] nighttime basals

>dear ruth , Again the new kid on the block (of understanding and taking
>control) i dont understand what you guys are talking about  when you say
>your checking thru the night and setting new basals or temp basals or the
>sleep phen. also would like information on how to carb for soups,chili and
>salads . we eat a lot of grilled chicken salads in my house. for regular
>meals i have always looked at the information found the carbs abd since my
>set ratio is 2 units for every 15 grams just did the math Is this how it is
>done?? or do you guys have a different way to calculate?? Dumb questions
>that your daughter could probally answer but im getting smarter cause now i
>have found my own book of knowledge on the net,and am smart enough to ask
>dumb questions and be assured that i will get lots of good advise by those
>who have lived it ..........thanks  DEB
>>From: "Ruth Schneider" <email @ redacted>
>>Reply-To: email @ redacted
>>To: <email @ redacted>
>>Subject: [IP] nighttime basals
>>Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:22:58 -0700
>>last night I did something different with geneva's night time basals.
>>usually we either do a temp basal when she hits the pillow, or I will
>>arbitrarily take a number out of the hat to go with for this rough period
>>between 8 and 1 am.  within reason...
>>in either case, I will test at midnight and correct or at 2 am and
>>correct...and then hope that it wasn't too much.  since her numbers have
>>consistently been in the mid to high 200's,  I keep her target on the high
>>side..around 140-150.  depending on the 'temp basal' that we have
>>set...sometimes she wakes up fine...
>>so, last night,  she tested at 8 pm because she felt low.  it appears that
>>she always feels low around this time. (carb ratio?  we eat around 6 pm)
>>she panics,  treats, and then I am chasing highs at 9 and 10.
>>she was 85.  gave her one lifesaver, to bring her up 20 points.  in half
>>hour...she was up to 155!  we left it alone.
>>8 pm    85   treat with 4 carbs
>>8:30 pm    155
>>12 midnight   270   do NOTHING
>>wake up    125!
>>she was on a 0.5 basal from mid afternoon up until 9 pm  .
>>9 pm until 1 am   1.0 basal
>>1 am until 4 am    0.3
>>4 am until wakeup   0.5
>>so...I am wondering if all this time I have been fudging around with these
>>high numbers when in essence I should just ignore them?  is it food
>>highs that are hitting her at bedtime?  or is it really this sleep
>>phenomenon that lily  (michael's daughter) experiences?  I guess I can
>>answer this myself.  it all boils down to doing a fasting basal test at
>>night.   was going to try this weekend.  will see how geneva feels.
>>for the sugar free jello ideas, folks.
>>I know that we have seen something occur as soon as she falls asleep.  the
>>numbers just instantaneously jump about 100 points. as you can see above,
>>she went from 155 - 270 in three hours.  unless this was caused by a bean
>>and cheese burrito.
>>just thinking out loud here...
>>mom to 10 1/2 yr. old geneva, pumping since june.
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