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Re: [IP] Disetronic vs. Minimed - Users input needed please!!



email @ redacted wrote:

> Oh dear, its deja vu all over again.
>         John I don't know much about German restaurants, but I don't think
> anyone can possibly hear the clicking in any of the many US restaurants
> I've ever gone to even under business meal circumstances.  And if someone
> could hear it and wondered aloud about it, I don't think they could
> localize a sound like that.  Just look puzzled too.   Kind of like quietly
> passing gas :-)
>         In fact in most the beeps can't even be easily heard, so I can
> easily audio bolus blindly under the table.  Then, I LOVE the clicks then
> because I can feel them and know that the audio bolus was successfully
> inputted.   There have been situations where I the tones could have been
> heard, and then i've just left to the mens room to play my tunes.
>         With regard to servicing, the best products just don't need them.
> In the old days in the US, Ma Bell used to make phone that never failed.
> The pump electronics can't be serviced, and the motor is sealed.  The only
> thing need occasional service is the pump screw, and we can do that with a
> brush.   If the pump fails we know it pretty quickly, but this is a very
> rare event.  And it is not really like being paralyzed and on a ventilator.
> We can always go back for a few days to shots--not ideal or desirable, but
> certainly not life threatening.
>         So just start singing to the beat next time you hear those strange
> clicks. :-)
> <<<<<<<<From: John Neale <email @ redacted>
> Stacey,
> I've got to disagree with you on a few points here, based on my
> experiences:
> I find the clicking noise very noticeable, even with the pump deep in my
> trouser pocket. When we sit down to a quiet dinner in the evening, I get
> several minutes of clicking. At business meals I don't wish to discuss
> my sundry illnesses, and the pump can often draw a "what's that
> clicking" comment. Fine if you like evangelising, but not so good if you
> just want to get on with life.
> It's also impossible to give a bolus without at least some beeping
> The Minimed pumps have no routine servicing. This means you use it until
> it breaks down (as all mechanical equipment does eventually). That seems
> an odd way to maintain life dependent equipment. Just suppose they flew
> jumbo jets until they broke down... Think 10 years down the line. Nobody
> will know that a moving part of the pump is about to break until it
> happens. Let's hope it doesn't happen at an inconvenient time and place,
> and lets hope your insurers will get a new pump to you straight away!
> In this context, the spare pump and routine maintenance of the
> Disetronic seems far more attractive. You have the constant reassurance
> that the pump is in perfect condition.
> The new endo I recently saw in Germany told me that he puts the Minimed
> and Disetronic pumps on the table in front of all his new pump patients,
> and lets them choose which they want. 80% choose the Disetronic.
> John
> (who has a 507 because it was cheaper in the UK)
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