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Re: [IP] New Animas Pump

Hi Cherie,

I live in the Toronto area.  If you would like, send me an email at
email @ redacted and we can work something out.  I will go look later on
and tell you how many boxes etc. I have exactly of all the items.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 5:51 PM, holmrun <email @ redacted> wrote:

> Jenna,
> Thank you for the offer of supplies - where do you live?
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenna M" <email @ redacted>
> To: <email @ redacted>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [IP] New Animas Pump
>  It sounds as if you have been through a lot!  I hope that you are able to
>> find a Endocrinologist who is able to provide you with useful and helpful
>> information.  I hope that soon all provinces throughout Canada will fund
>> pumps for diabetics.
>> P.S Off topic, but I actually have some unopened Paradigm pump supplies
>> (infusion sets and cartridges) that I don't think I'll ever use, since I
>> switched to Animas.  If you -- or anyone else, would like them, I can
>> arrange to have them shipped to you (all I would ask is for is
>> compensation
>> for postage) It's several boxes of Paradigm 'Quick Sets'..  .
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:33 PM, holmrun <email @ redacted> wrote:
>>  Jenna,
>>> I was given the book, Pumping Insulin, by the local nurses ( I am on
>>> Vancouver Island). I found it invaluable - the young Endo said it was all
>>> hype, put out by companies who make pumps, and that I had fallen for
>>> their
>>> ruse! He said my levels had always fluctuated, and that my recent
>>> lowering
>>> was normal for me, not because of the pump. He also said that successful
>>> diabetics would drink a can of glycerna instead of eating something that
>>> they could not calculate the carbs in accurately.
>>> What he did not take into consideration, for me, was the 2 years that I
>>> spent trying to save my husband from cancer, and the last 18 months of
>>> intense grief at loosing the battle. I am now ready to take care of
>>> myself-
>>> for the last 4 years I have had a lot of stress & my bg's fluctuated a
>>> lot,
>>> even though I test constantly, and was careful what I ate. I went on the
>>> Mini med paradigm pump ( which I had to purchase, since not all provinces
>>> pay for them), because I saw a girl at a dog show that had a pump & she
>>> told me what a life save it was, and that her levels went to 6 from 9
>>> within 6 months. That was what convinced me to use my few dollars to buy
>>> this unit, not hype form a company. I bought the unit on EBay, got a
>>> relative in that part of the company to go get it for me, but the Mini
>>> med
>>> company will not support me because I did not purchase it from them -
>>> they
>>> said I had to return it & buy one from them, at $7000.00.
>>> My GP is behind me, so are the nurses - I think when I asked my GP for
>>> help with an Endo, he chose this one, not knowing that he was against the
>>> idea.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenna M" <email @ redacted>
>>> To: <email @ redacted>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:53 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [IP] New Animas Pump
>>>  I'm very surprised that a doctor would advise you against using an
>>> insulin
>>>> pump.  In Canada, since we have publicly funded health care, many
>>>> Provinces
>>>> will also pay for their citizens, who have T1 diabetes, to have a pump
>>>> (and
>>>> reimburse one a few thousand dollars a year for supplies) because it is
>>>> so
>>>> integral to good management (often it is the case).  I wonder where your
>>>> Endo got the notion that insulin pumps are not conducive to good
>>>> diabetic
>>>> control.. It almost seems, dare I say, irresponsible.  The book 'Pumping
>>>> Insulin' has been very helpful with my understanding of the pump.
>>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:56 PM, holmrun <email @ redacted> wrote:
>>>>  He was a very young man who had been practising for only 6 years. I
>>>> don't
>>>>> know what books or articles he read to come up with his theory, but he
>>>>> has
>>>>> played with my life for 4 months too long & he is now history. I am
>>>>> back
>>>>> on
>>>>> my own, & with the help of this list i may glean enough information to
>>>>> get
>>>>> this working for me.
>>>>> Cherie
>>>>> - Original Message ----- From: "Susan Lane" <email @ redacted>
>>>>> To: <email @ redacted>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:03 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [IP] New Animas Pump
>>>>>  It's funny to me that your endo would tell you not to use a pump, when
>>>>>  mine
>>>>>> told me the only way I'd be able to control my diabetes was to use a
>>>>>> pump.
>>>>>> I have no regrets and love my pump and don't know what I'd do without
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> I wonder if your doc was an elderly man stuck in an old mindset.
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:19 AM, holmrun <email @ redacted> wrote:
>>>>>>  I have been on insulin for 15 years, using Lantus & Humalog. I
>>>>>> bought a
>>>>>>  pump with money my Babe left me when he left this world. I was doing
>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>> with most mornings at about 6 ish, then asked my GP to recommend a
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> endo that knew pumps to help me fine tune this thing. I ended up
>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>> doctor who took me off the pump, said it caused insulin resistance,
>>>>>>> laziness, & would never work.I have given him a try at his method- no
>>>>>>> snacks, same meals everyday at exactly the same time everyday.
>>>>>>> Problem
>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>> I travel in my work, have few days that are the same as the one
>>>>>>> before,
>>>>>>> etc. & my levels have been going from off the meter to sweaty lows
>>>>>>> of 2
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the middle of the night!
>>>>>>> I have decided that he is wrong for me & I am going back on the pump
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> only have community nurses to help me now, but I will persevere.
>>>>>>> Still
>>>>>>> looking for a Doc who understands pumps & my need to be on one - my
>>>>>>> GP
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> all for it, but admits he doesn't know that much. What have you all
>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>> for help from your Dr's?
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <email @ redacted>
>>>>>>> To: <email @ redacted>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 6:50 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [IP] New Animas Pump
>>>>>>>  Sarah/Kate,
>>>>>>>  If you're bolusing for additional carbs being eaten, you wouldn't
>>>>>>>> WANT
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> pump to consider IOB, because any of that IOB would not relate to
>>>>>>>> carbs
>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>> taken in with THAT meal.  For instance, if you have IOB from a prior
>>>>>>>> bolus,
>>>>>>>> and you choose to eat something else with carbs within the time that
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> IOB
>>>>>>>> is still set to be working, it will absolutely recommend the full
>>>>>>>> bolus
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> unless you're below your target -- so that those carbs taken in are
>>>>>>>> adequately
>>>>>>>> covered.  IOB is generally only taken into consideration when doing
>>>>>>>> corrections within a period of time when the last bollus was given
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> still working.  Having IOB subtract from a MEAL bolus will leave you
>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>> high
>>>>>>>> after the meal.
>>>>>>>> I'm not exactly sure what Kate was asking and what Sarah is
>>>>>>>> commenting
>>>>>>>> on, but
>>>>>>>> I THINK that this is what it was about -- IOB not being subtracted
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>> programming a bolus for food intake.
>>>>>>>> I've had three of this similar type of Animas pump (the IR1200,
>>>>>>>> IR1200
>>>>>>>> Plus,
>>>>>>>> 2020 and now the Ping) since 2004, and I'm very comfortable and very
>>>>>>>> happy
>>>>>>>> with the way that it calculates and makes exceptions for IOB.  Of
>>>>>>>> course,
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> also know my OWN patterns and there are times when I disregard the
>>>>>>>> IOB
>>>>>>>> calculations.
>>>>>>>> Christine
>>>>>>>> New Jersey
>>>>>>>>  I have the IOB-2 ON but the ping sometimes does not include IOB
>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>   bolussing.  >>
>>>>>>>>>  .
>>>>>>>>  .
>>>>>>>  .
>>>>>>  .
>>>>>  .
>>>>  .
>> .
> .
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