Re: [IP] New Animas Pump
Thank you. I have those but i can't use though.
Jamie Kovacs
On Nov 23, 2011, at 12:45 PM, jenna M <email @ redacted> wrote:
> It sounds as if you have been through a lot! I hope that you are able to
> find a Endocrinologist who is able to provide you with useful and helpful
> information. I hope that soon all provinces throughout Canada will fund
> pumps for diabetics.
>
> P.S Off topic, but I actually have some unopened Paradigm pump supplies
> (infusion sets and cartridges) that I don't think I'll ever use, since I
> switched to Animas. If you -- or anyone else, would like them, I can
> arrange to have them shipped to you (all I would ask is for is compensation
> for postage) It's several boxes of Paradigm 'Quick Sets'.. .
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:33 PM, holmrun <email @ redacted> wrote:
>
>> Jenna,
>> I was given the book, Pumping Insulin, by the local nurses ( I am on
>> Vancouver Island). I found it invaluable - the young Endo said it was all
>> hype, put out by companies who make pumps, and that I had fallen for their
>> ruse! He said my levels had always fluctuated, and that my recent lowering
>> was normal for me, not because of the pump. He also said that successful
>> diabetics would drink a can of glycerna instead of eating something that
>> they could not calculate the carbs in accurately.
>> What he did not take into consideration, for me, was the 2 years that I
>> spent trying to save my husband from cancer, and the last 18 months of
>> intense grief at loosing the battle. I am now ready to take care of myself-
>> for the last 4 years I have had a lot of stress & my bg's fluctuated a lot,
>> even though I test constantly, and was careful what I ate. I went on the
>> Mini med paradigm pump ( which I had to purchase, since not all provinces
>> pay for them), because I saw a girl at a dog show that had a pump & she
>> told me what a life save it was, and that her levels went to 6 from 9
>> within 6 months. That was what convinced me to use my few dollars to buy
>> this unit, not hype form a company. I bought the unit on EBay, got a
>> relative in that part of the company to go get it for me, but the Mini med
>> company will not support me because I did not purchase it from them - they
>> said I had to return it & buy one from them, at $7000.00.
>> My GP is behind me, so are the nurses - I think when I asked my GP for
>> help with an Endo, he chose this one, not knowing that he was against the
>> idea.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenna M" <email @ redacted>
>> To: <email @ redacted>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:53 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [IP] New Animas Pump
>>
>>
>> I'm very surprised that a doctor would advise you against using an insulin
>>> pump. In Canada, since we have publicly funded health care, many
>>> Provinces
>>> will also pay for their citizens, who have T1 diabetes, to have a pump
>>> (and
>>> reimburse one a few thousand dollars a year for supplies) because it is so
>>> integral to good management (often it is the case). I wonder where your
>>> Endo got the notion that insulin pumps are not conducive to good diabetic
>>> control.. It almost seems, dare I say, irresponsible. The book 'Pumping
>>> Insulin' has been very helpful with my understanding of the pump.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:56 PM, holmrun <email @ redacted> wrote:
>>>
>>> He was a very young man who had been practising for only 6 years. I don't
>>>> know what books or articles he read to come up with his theory, but he
>>>> has
>>>> played with my life for 4 months too long & he is now history. I am back
>>>> on
>>>> my own, & with the help of this list i may glean enough information to
>>>> get
>>>> this working for me.
>>>> Cherie
>>>> - Original Message ----- From: "Susan Lane" <email @ redacted>
>>>> To: <email @ redacted>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:03 AM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [IP] New Animas Pump
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's funny to me that your endo would tell you not to use a pump, when
>>>>
>>>>> mine
>>>>> told me the only way I'd be able to control my diabetes was to use a
>>>>> pump.
>>>>> I have no regrets and love my pump and don't know what I'd do without
>>>>> it.
>>>>> I wonder if your doc was an elderly man stuck in an old mindset.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:19 AM, holmrun <email @ redacted> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been on insulin for 15 years, using Lantus & Humalog. I bought a
>>>>>
>>>>>> pump with money my Babe left me when he left this world. I was doing
>>>>>> well
>>>>>> with most mornings at about 6 ish, then asked my GP to recommend a good
>>>>>> endo that knew pumps to help me fine tune this thing. I ended up with a
>>>>>> doctor who took me off the pump, said it caused insulin resistance,
>>>>>> laziness, & would never work.I have given him a try at his method- no
>>>>>> snacks, same meals everyday at exactly the same time everyday. Problem
>>>>>> is,
>>>>>> I travel in my work, have few days that are the same as the one before,
>>>>>> etc. & my levels have been going from off the meter to sweaty lows of 2
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the middle of the night!
>>>>>> I have decided that he is wrong for me & I am going back on the pump -
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> only have community nurses to help me now, but I will persevere. Still
>>>>>> looking for a Doc who understands pumps & my need to be on one - my GP
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> all for it, but admits he doesn't know that much. What have you all
>>>>>> found
>>>>>> for help from your Dr's?
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <email @ redacted>
>>>>>> To: <email @ redacted>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 6:50 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [IP] New Animas Pump
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sarah/Kate,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you're bolusing for additional carbs being eaten, you wouldn't WANT
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> pump to consider IOB, because any of that IOB would not relate to
>>>>>>> carbs
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> taken in with THAT meal. For instance, if you have IOB from a prior
>>>>>>> bolus,
>>>>>>> and you choose to eat something else with carbs within the time that
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> IOB
>>>>>>> is still set to be working, it will absolutely recommend the full
>>>>>>> bolus
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> unless you're below your target -- so that those carbs taken in are
>>>>>>> adequately
>>>>>>> covered. IOB is generally only taken into consideration when doing
>>>>>>> corrections within a period of time when the last bollus was given and
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> still working. Having IOB subtract from a MEAL bolus will leave you
>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>> high
>>>>>>> after the meal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not exactly sure what Kate was asking and what Sarah is commenting
>>>>>>> on, but
>>>>>>> I THINK that this is what it was about -- IOB not being subtracted if
>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>> programming a bolus for food intake.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've had three of this similar type of Animas pump (the IR1200, IR1200
>>>>>>> Plus,
>>>>>>> 2020 and now the Ping) since 2004, and I'm very comfortable and very
>>>>>>> happy
>>>>>>> with the way that it calculates and makes exceptions for IOB. Of
>>>>>>> course,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> also know my OWN patterns and there are times when I disregard the IOB
>>>>>>> calculations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christine
>>>>>>> New Jersey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the IOB-2 ON but the ping sometimes does not include IOB when
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bolussing. >>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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