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Re: [IP] New Animas Pump

It sounds as if you have been through a lot!  I hope that you are able to
find a Endocrinologist who is able to provide you with useful and helpful
information.  I hope that soon all provinces throughout Canada will fund
pumps for diabetics.

P.S Off topic, but I actually have some unopened Paradigm pump supplies
(infusion sets and cartridges) that I don't think I'll ever use, since I
switched to Animas.  If you -- or anyone else, would like them, I can
arrange to have them shipped to you (all I would ask is for is compensation
for postage) It's several boxes of Paradigm 'Quick Sets'..  .

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:33 PM, holmrun <email @ redacted> wrote:

> Jenna,
> I was given the book, Pumping Insulin, by the local nurses ( I am on
> Vancouver Island). I found it invaluable - the young Endo said it was all
> hype, put out by companies who make pumps, and that I had fallen for their
> ruse! He said my levels had always fluctuated, and that my recent lowering
> was normal for me, not because of the pump. He also said that successful
> diabetics would drink a can of glycerna instead of eating something that
> they could not calculate the carbs in accurately.
> What he did not take into consideration, for me, was the 2 years that I
> spent trying to save my husband from cancer, and the last 18 months of
> intense grief at loosing the battle. I am now ready to take care of myself-
> for the last 4 years I have had a lot of stress & my bg's fluctuated a lot,
> even though I test constantly, and was careful what I ate. I went on the
> Mini med paradigm pump ( which I had to purchase, since not all provinces
> pay for them), because I saw a girl at a dog show that had a pump & she
> told me what a life save it was, and that her levels went to 6 from 9
> within 6 months. That was what convinced me to use my few dollars to buy
> this unit, not hype form a company. I bought the unit on EBay, got a
> relative in that part of the company to go get it for me, but the Mini med
> company will not support me because I did not purchase it from them - they
> said I had to return it & buy one from them, at $7000.00.
> My GP is behind me, so are the nurses - I think when I asked my GP for
> help with an Endo, he chose this one, not knowing that he was against the
> idea.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenna M" <email @ redacted>
> To: <email @ redacted>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [IP] New Animas Pump
>  I'm very surprised that a doctor would advise you against using an insulin
>> pump.  In Canada, since we have publicly funded health care, many
>> Provinces
>> will also pay for their citizens, who have T1 diabetes, to have a pump
>> (and
>> reimburse one a few thousand dollars a year for supplies) because it is so
>> integral to good management (often it is the case).  I wonder where your
>> Endo got the notion that insulin pumps are not conducive to good diabetic
>> control.. It almost seems, dare I say, irresponsible.  The book 'Pumping
>> Insulin' has been very helpful with my understanding of the pump.
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:56 PM, holmrun <email @ redacted> wrote:
>>  He was a very young man who had been practising for only 6 years. I don't
>>> know what books or articles he read to come up with his theory, but he
>>> has
>>> played with my life for 4 months too long & he is now history. I am back
>>> on
>>> my own, & with the help of this list i may glean enough information to
>>> get
>>> this working for me.
>>> Cherie
>>> - Original Message ----- From: "Susan Lane" <email @ redacted>
>>> To: <email @ redacted>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [IP] New Animas Pump
>>>  It's funny to me that your endo would tell you not to use a pump, when
>>>> mine
>>>> told me the only way I'd be able to control my diabetes was to use a
>>>> pump.
>>>> I have no regrets and love my pump and don't know what I'd do without
>>>> it.
>>>> I wonder if your doc was an elderly man stuck in an old mindset.
>>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:19 AM, holmrun <email @ redacted> wrote:
>>>>  I have been on insulin for 15 years, using Lantus & Humalog. I bought a
>>>>> pump with money my Babe left me when he left this world. I was doing
>>>>> well
>>>>> with most mornings at about 6 ish, then asked my GP to recommend a good
>>>>> endo that knew pumps to help me fine tune this thing. I ended up with a
>>>>> doctor who took me off the pump, said it caused insulin resistance,
>>>>> laziness, & would never work.I have given him a try at his method- no
>>>>> snacks, same meals everyday at exactly the same time everyday. Problem
>>>>> is,
>>>>> I travel in my work, have few days that are the same as the one before,
>>>>> etc. & my levels have been going from off the meter to sweaty lows of 2
>>>>> in
>>>>> the middle of the night!
>>>>> I have decided that he is wrong for me & I am going back on the pump -
>>>>> I
>>>>> only have community nurses to help me now, but I will persevere. Still
>>>>> looking for a Doc who understands pumps & my need to be on one - my GP
>>>>> is
>>>>> all for it, but admits he doesn't know that much. What have you all
>>>>> found
>>>>> for help from your Dr's?
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <email @ redacted>
>>>>> To: <email @ redacted>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 6:50 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [IP] New Animas Pump
>>>>>  Sarah/Kate,
>>>>>> If you're bolusing for additional carbs being eaten, you wouldn't WANT
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> pump to consider IOB, because any of that IOB would not relate to
>>>>>> carbs
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> taken in with THAT meal.  For instance, if you have IOB from a prior
>>>>>> bolus,
>>>>>> and you choose to eat something else with carbs within the time that
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> IOB
>>>>>> is still set to be working, it will absolutely recommend the full
>>>>>> bolus
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> unless you're below your target -- so that those carbs taken in are
>>>>>> adequately
>>>>>> covered.  IOB is generally only taken into consideration when doing
>>>>>> corrections within a period of time when the last bollus was given and
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> still working.  Having IOB subtract from a MEAL bolus will leave you
>>>>>> too
>>>>>> high
>>>>>> after the meal.
>>>>>> I'm not exactly sure what Kate was asking and what Sarah is commenting
>>>>>> on, but
>>>>>> I THINK that this is what it was about -- IOB not being subtracted if
>>>>>> you're
>>>>>> programming a bolus for food intake.
>>>>>> I've had three of this similar type of Animas pump (the IR1200, IR1200
>>>>>> Plus,
>>>>>> 2020 and now the Ping) since 2004, and I'm very comfortable and very
>>>>>> happy
>>>>>> with the way that it calculates and makes exceptions for IOB.  Of
>>>>>> course,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> also know my OWN patterns and there are times when I disregard the IOB
>>>>>> calculations.
>>>>>> Christine
>>>>>> New Jersey
>>>>>>  I have the IOB-2 ON but the ping sometimes does not include IOB when
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>   bolussing.  >>
>>>>>>>  .
>>>>>>  .
>>>>>  .
>>>>  .
>> .
> .
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