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Re: [IP] New Animas Pump

I was given the book, Pumping Insulin, by the local nurses ( I am on 
Vancouver Island). I found it invaluable - the young Endo said it was all 
hype, put out by companies who make pumps, and that I had fallen for their 
ruse! He said my levels had always fluctuated, and that my recent lowering 
was normal for me, not because of the pump. He also said that successful 
diabetics would drink a can of glycerna instead of eating something that 
they could not calculate the carbs in accurately.
What he did not take into consideration, for me, was the 2 years that I 
spent trying to save my husband from cancer, and the last 18 months of 
intense grief at loosing the battle. I am now ready to take care of myself- 
for the last 4 years I have had a lot of stress & my bg's fluctuated a lot, 
even though I test constantly, and was careful what I ate. I went on the 
Mini med paradigm pump ( which I had to purchase, since not all provinces 
pay for them), because I saw a girl at a dog show that had a pump & she told 
me what a life save it was, and that her levels went to 6 from 9 within 6 
months. That was what convinced me to use my few dollars to buy this unit, 
not hype form a company. I bought the unit on EBay, got a relative in that 
part of the company to go get it for me, but the Mini med company will not 
support me because I did not purchase it from them - they said I had to 
return it & buy one from them, at $7000.00.
My GP is behind me, so are the nurses - I think when I asked my GP for help 
with an Endo, he chose this one, not knowing that he was against the idea.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jenna M" <email @ redacted>
To: <email @ redacted>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [IP] New Animas Pump

> I'm very surprised that a doctor would advise you against using an insulin
> pump.  In Canada, since we have publicly funded health care, many 
> Provinces
> will also pay for their citizens, who have T1 diabetes, to have a pump 
> (and
> reimburse one a few thousand dollars a year for supplies) because it is so
> integral to good management (often it is the case).  I wonder where your
> Endo got the notion that insulin pumps are not conducive to good diabetic
> control.. It almost seems, dare I say, irresponsible.  The book 'Pumping
> Insulin' has been very helpful with my understanding of the pump.
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:56 PM, holmrun <email @ redacted> wrote:
>> He was a very young man who had been practising for only 6 years. I don't
>> know what books or articles he read to come up with his theory, but he 
>> has
>> played with my life for 4 months too long & he is now history. I am back 
>> on
>> my own, & with the help of this list i may glean enough information to 
>> get
>> this working for me.
>> Cherie
>> - Original Message ----- From: "Susan Lane" <email @ redacted>
>> To: <email @ redacted>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [IP] New Animas Pump
>>  It's funny to me that your endo would tell you not to use a pump, when
>>> mine
>>> told me the only way I'd be able to control my diabetes was to use a 
>>> pump.
>>> I have no regrets and love my pump and don't know what I'd do without 
>>> it.
>>> I wonder if your doc was an elderly man stuck in an old mindset.
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:19 AM, holmrun <email @ redacted> wrote:
>>>  I have been on insulin for 15 years, using Lantus & Humalog. I bought a
>>>> pump with money my Babe left me when he left this world. I was doing 
>>>> well
>>>> with most mornings at about 6 ish, then asked my GP to recommend a good
>>>> endo that knew pumps to help me fine tune this thing. I ended up with a
>>>> doctor who took me off the pump, said it caused insulin resistance,
>>>> laziness, & would never work.I have given him a try at his method- no
>>>> snacks, same meals everyday at exactly the same time everyday. Problem
>>>> is,
>>>> I travel in my work, have few days that are the same as the one before,
>>>> etc. & my levels have been going from off the meter to sweaty lows of 2
>>>> in
>>>> the middle of the night!
>>>> I have decided that he is wrong for me & I am going back on the pump - 
>>>> I
>>>> only have community nurses to help me now, but I will persevere. Still
>>>> looking for a Doc who understands pumps & my need to be on one - my GP 
>>>> is
>>>> all for it, but admits he doesn't know that much. What have you all 
>>>> found
>>>> for help from your Dr's?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <email @ redacted>
>>>> To: <email @ redacted>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 6:50 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [IP] New Animas Pump
>>>>  Sarah/Kate,
>>>>> If you're bolusing for additional carbs being eaten, you wouldn't WANT
>>>>> the
>>>>> pump to consider IOB, because any of that IOB would not relate to 
>>>>> carbs
>>>>> being
>>>>> taken in with THAT meal.  For instance, if you have IOB from a prior
>>>>> bolus,
>>>>> and you choose to eat something else with carbs within the time that
>>>>> your
>>>>> IOB
>>>>> is still set to be working, it will absolutely recommend the full 
>>>>> bolus
>>>>> --
>>>>> unless you're below your target -- so that those carbs taken in are
>>>>> adequately
>>>>> covered.  IOB is generally only taken into consideration when doing
>>>>> corrections within a period of time when the last bollus was given and
>>>>> is
>>>>> still working.  Having IOB subtract from a MEAL bolus will leave you 
>>>>> too
>>>>> high
>>>>> after the meal.
>>>>> I'm not exactly sure what Kate was asking and what Sarah is commenting
>>>>> on, but
>>>>> I THINK that this is what it was about -- IOB not being subtracted if
>>>>> you're
>>>>> programming a bolus for food intake.
>>>>> I've had three of this similar type of Animas pump (the IR1200, IR1200
>>>>> Plus,
>>>>> 2020 and now the Ping) since 2004, and I'm very comfortable and very
>>>>> happy
>>>>> with the way that it calculates and makes exceptions for IOB.  Of
>>>>> course,
>>>>> I
>>>>> also know my OWN patterns and there are times when I disregard the IOB
>>>>> calculations.
>>>>> Christine
>>>>> New Jersey
>>>>>  I have the IOB-2 ON but the ping sometimes does not include IOB when
>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>  bolussing.  >>
>>>>> .
>>>>>  .
>>> .
>> .
> .
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