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Re: [IP] Pay up

I'm not sure where all these people come from, BUT, Everything cost! Even
doing nothing ,   I'm more than willing to help cover the cost,

 I've only been pumping since Sept, and I've learned alot on pumping ---
what to do and what not to do :) Took awhile , but I'm a slow learner!


----- Original Message -----
From: "George" <email @ redacted>
To: <email @ redacted>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:59 AM
Subject: RE: [IP] Pay up

> At 9:04 AM -0500 11/21/03, Grimes, Keith wrote:
> >. Yes, believe it or not, there are other groups out there where
> >members are supporting each other in a caring and respectful environment
> >and it doesn't cost you a penny to freely exchange information.
> >
> >Heresy.
> Yes, heresy!   And I for one will be a judge of your soul during the
> Inquisition!     ;>p
> >. But as far as this MAILING LIST goes, there should be no fee
> >to exchange information which is offered to support other members of the
> >diabetic community.
> Granted that there are a lot of other lists out there which provide
> the means to exchange information without monetary cost, BUT they
> have their ways of making money.  Maybe it is so subliminal that you
> don't even realize it.   What do you get from IP mail?  Nothing but
> what other people send and the only "non-member" part of the message
> is "for HELP or to subscribe/unsubscribe/change list"   Not very
> subliminal, is it?    ;>)
> >Moreover, if you're going to continue to suggest that people should
> >indeed pay to play (which is perfectly fine with me) let's make sure we
> >all know what we're wanting that money for. It costs nothing but time to
> >maintain a mailing list and time is not cheap.
> THAT time is volunteer, thank you but you needn't pay me for that.
> There are a great deal of other costs that support the movement of
> the email, the web site which interacts, and the Non-Profit that does
> all it can to support diabetics
> >  But I'll say it again,
> >people all over the world with a desire to do just that, are doing it.
> See above, they are sending email with it's costs, they are not
> maintaining a web site with so many tools, links, studies and
> updates, all housed within an independent operation so that it owes
> NOTHING to any other commercial interest.  There are costs, and then
> there are independent costs.
> >The website, on the other hand, is a different kind of beast, which
> >obviously takes much more time and money to maintain. Charge up the
> >wazoo for the use of it, if you want to (grammarians, please excuse that
> >last sentence). Or donate as much of your money as you want in an effort
> >to keep it running. I don't care what you do with your money and please
> >don't feel the need to inform me of your financial situation - it has no
> >bearing on this discussion.
> I don't really like to think of IP as a "beast".   To me it is an
> ever friendly (though some posts would dispute that) puppy, ready to
> serve and assist when called upon.  As far as "grammarians", I'll
> leave that to the professionals.  But let me comment that people's
> different financial position DOES have a bearing on the discussion
> and if someone's suggestion of how to help though in that position
> would then encourage someone else to contribute, then all the better.
> If any post bothers anyone, they do have a delete key.
> >One last time just so we're all clear on this - charge money for use of
> >the website, or don't. Shit or get off the pot. Michael,
> It IS Michael's "pot", but I think the decision IS still up to YOU.
> If you want to just crap in it, you are FREE to do so, it won't cost
> you a thing except the electrons that run free in your brain and then
> travel across the ethernet.  As for me, I think I'll toss in another
> buck just for all the good feelings this "beast" gives me; "good boy,
> nice puppy!!!"
> And for your penance say 5 Our Father's and 15 Hail Mary's
> George      :>)
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