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Re: [IP] carb counting {Unused insulin}



Sorry,  my software obviously didn't paste in the image correctly,
Jay


> Time    H       R       SFI-H  SFI-R  Intg H Intg R   H Fract R Fract
>
                                               Minus
Minus                                     Remaining    Remaining
                                                baseline     baseline

> 0       0.50    0.50    0.09    0.07    0.45    0.35    99.8%   99.9%
> 10      0.63    0.45    0.22    0.02    1.55    0.45    99.2%   99.7%
> 20      0.90    0.50    0.49    0.07    3.55    0.45    97.7%   99.5%
> 30      1.50    0.70    1.09    0.27    7.9     1.7     94.5%   98.9%
> 40      1.76    0.96    1.35    0.53    12.2    4       89.4%   97.4%
> 50      1.95    1.10    1.54    0.67    14.45   6       83.5%   95.1%
> 60      2.06    1.13    1.65    0.70    15.95   6.85    76.9%   92.6%
> 70      1.96    1.20    1.55    0.77    16      7.35    70.3%   89.8%
> 80      1.90    1.28    1.49    0.85    15.2    8.1     64.1%   86.8%
> 90      1.92    1.35    1.51    0.92    15      8.85    57.9%   83.5%
> 100     1.84    1.38    1.43    0.95    14.7    9.35    51.9%   80.0%
> 110     1.68    1.40    1.27    0.97    13.5    9.6     46.3%   76.4%
> 120     1.53    1.42    1.12    0.99    11.95   9.8     41.4%   72.7%
> 130     1.40    1.42    0.99    0.99    10.55   9.9     37.0%   69.0%
> 140     1.32    1.42    0.91    0.99    9.5     9.9     33.1%   65.3%
> 150     1.22    1.42    0.81    0.99    8.6     9.9     29.6%   61.6%
> 160     1.13    1.42    0.72    0.99    7.65    9.9     26.4%   57.9%
> 170     1.05    1.42    0.64    0.99    6.8     9.9     23.6%   54.2%
> 180     0.93    1.42    0.52    0.99    5.8     9.9     21.2%   50.5%
> 190     0.89    1.37    0.48    0.94    5       9.65    19.2%   46.9%
> 200     0.85    1.30    0.44    0.87    4.6     9.05    17.3%   43.5%
> 210     0.80    1.25    0.39    0.82    4.15    8.45    15.6%   40.3%
> 220     0.78    1.22    0.37    0.79    3.8     8.05    14.0%   37.3%
> 230     0.77    1.18    0.36    0.75    3.65    7.7     12.5%   34.4%
> 240     0.75    1.15    0.34    0.72    3.5     7.35    11.1%   31.6%
> 250     0.70    1.10    0.29    0.67    3.15    6.95    9.8%    29.0%
> 260     0.67    1.06    0.26    0.63    2.75    6.5     8.6%    26.6%
> 270     0.66    1.02    0.25    0.59    2.55    6.1     7.6%    24.3%
> 280     0.61    0.98    0.20    0.55    2.25    5.7     6.7%    22.2%
> 290     0.59    0.92    0.18    0.49    1.9     5.2     5.9%    20.2%
> 300     0.58    0.88    0.17    0.45    1.75    4.7     5.2%    18.5%
> 310     0.55    0.85    0.14    0.42    1.55    4.35    4.5%    16.9%
> 320     0.52    0.85    0.11    0.42    1.25    4.2     4.0%    15.3%
> 330     0.50    0.83    0.09    0.40    1       4.1     3.6%    13.7%
> 340     0.50    0.81    0.09    0.38    0.9     3.9     3.2%    12.3%
> 350     0.50    0.79    0.09    0.36    0.9     3.7     2.9%    10.9%
> 360     0.50    0.76    0.09    0.33    0.9     3.45    2.5%    9.6%
> 370     0.50    0.72    0.09    0.29    0.9     3.1     2.1%    8.4%
> 380     0.48    0.69    0.07    0.26    0.8     2.75    1.8%    7.4%
> 390     0.47    0.66    0.06    0.23    0.65    2.45    1.5%    6.5%
> 400     0.47    0.65    0.06    0.22    0.6     2.25    1.3%    5.7%
> 410     0.46    0.64    0.05    0.21    0.55    2.15    1.0%    4.9%
> 420     0.46    0.64    0.05    0.21    0.5     2.1     0.8%    4.1%
> 430     0.45    0.65    0.04    0.22    0.45    2.15    0.7%    3.3%
> 440     0.45    0.66    0.04    0.23    0.4     2.25    0.5%    2.4%
> 450     0.45    0.68    0.04    0.25    0.4     2.4     0.3%    1.5%
> 460     0.44    0.62    0.03    0.19    0.35    2.2     0.2%    0.7%
> 470     0.44    0.52    0.03    0.09    0.3     1.4     0.1%    0.2%
> 480     0.41    0.43    0.00    0.00    0.15    0.45    0.0%    0.0%
>



Jay Watson wrote:

> I started thinking along the line of UnUsed Insulin when I started
> frequent testing (7-10 per day).  Without considering this, it is easy
>
> to double-bolus, where you don't consider the "unused insulin" and
> bolus
> twice for the "same" high.  I took the Lilley information from the
> Humalog data sheet and I put that into an Excel spreadsheet.  From
> this
> I integrated the serum-insulin curves and could calculate the percent
> of
> a dose that is "unused" as a function of time.  The data below is that
>
> calculation.  I have done this for both Humalog and Regular insulins.
> I
> include it all in the event that someone is interested in following
> the
> mathematics.  If anyone would like the spreadsheet emailed to them,
> email that request to me and include what version of Excel you are
> using.
> Jay
> (SFI -Serum Free Insulin)
>
> [Image]
>
> Ruth Elowitz wrote:
>
> > Michael wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 20 Nov 1997 email @ redacted wrote:
> > > > What do you people do when you are out, and don'y know the carb
> > count of
> > > > something? Do you not eat it? do
> > > > you take a guess? Just what do you do?
> > > Yep!
> > > Rember exchanges? (how could you forget) estimate like that.
> > >
> > > After carb counting awhile, you will be able to look at a plate of
>
> > food
> > > and guess within about 10%. Really!!  Lily can about 80-90 % of
> the
> > time.
> > >
> > > The other trick is to eat, check in 1 hour, look at the rise or
> fall
> > of
> > > bg and adjust by using the unused insulin rule (or its converse if
>
> > you're
> > > high).  You'd be supprised how many servings of things are exactly
>
> > one
> > > exchange.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > Michael,
> >
> > Could you share (perhaps again I'm afraid) the "unused insulin
> rule"?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > Ruth
> > > >