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Re: [IP] Re: FDA Approved trial for 100 year old vaccine use on T1 D!



yeah, good explanation. It eludes to the permanence of Type 1 so far. I
don't know of anyone, that has experienced a reversal of the disease. You
are saying that the destruction of the beta cells was happening anyways.

I first read about Dr Faustman's accidental discovery in 2004, I distinctly
remember it. To think of it, nothings come of it so far. Just illustrates
how long trials take, I guess. Not blaming anybody, as I am not in the
medical field, but it's kinda taught me to not be anxious about cures for
Type 1.

Dilip

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Liliana Wells <
email @ redacted> wrote:

> This is a good explanation.  I think that many of us, however, link our
> diagnosis of diabetes with some sort of illness preceding it.  We will
> never know for sure because our autoimmune may not have been working for a
> long time and we did not know it.
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 6:12 PM, d-d <
> email @ redacted> wrote:
>
> > It's a bit more complicated than that.  Your strep throat was treated,
> but
> > there probably was a secondary infection, possibly a virus.  Your adrenal
> > glands responded by dumping stress hormones into your body, which raises
> > blood glucose...and the diminished number of functioning beta cells in
> your
> > pancreas couldn't deal with it.  There was an ongoing process of
> > T-lymphocytes killing off the insulin producing cells because something
> > about the islet cells made the T-cells think that they were foreign.
> >
> > When I was in school, I learned about "Leaky Gut Syndrome" in conjunction
> > with milk, and now the Wheat Belly doctor thinks that wheat and grains
> > cause certain susceptible individuals to have their intestinal walls
> become
> > abnormally porous.  That permits small protein-like particles to float
> > around in interstitial fluid. Eventually, they make their way to the
> > pancreas beta cells and attach to the cells. Whether it's wheat, milk or
> > strawberry jello or a combination, it doesn't matter. Something marks
> those
> > insulin producing cells for destruction.
> >
> > My mother was the first person in my family to get diabetes that we know
> > for sure had diabetes.  My grandmother said that an aunt died young under
> > strange circumstances, but she was a peasant in Czechoslovakia.  Was id
> > diabetes or cancer or something else? Nobody knows.  The prevailing
> theory
> > of T1 diabetes during the '50s and '60s was that a person inherited 2
> genes
> > for it, one from each parent.  All other people received only one gene,
> so
> > they got T2 diabetes.  Well, some guy in Italy debunked that theory in
> the
> > 1970s by proving that T1 is autoimmune. Mom was so worried that my sibs
> and
> > I would get diabetes, every time one of us hurled, she's be right there
> > with a jar to collect a urine sample for a Clinitest. But I was the only
> > one who every tested positive that way.  After Halloween in 1963, I had
> the
> > flu and a 4+ urine sugar.  By the time I got to a doctor, BG and urine
> was
> > back to normal.  My infection was over and done with, my adrenal glands
> > were no longer producing excess levels of stress hormones and life was
> good
> > - until 1966 by which time my T-cells had really done a number on my
> > pancreas.  But the destruction of my beta cells began a long time before
> > 1963 and continued on for years.
> >
> > Denise Br.
> >
> >
> > On 6/11/2015 3:58 PM,
> > email @ redacted wrote:
> > > For me, as best as I can tell, I had strep throat, got treated, and it
> > cleared
> >
> >> up. This was 4 weeks before the onset of type 1 symptoms. All I can
> think
> >> is
> >> that my immune system got turned oon - as well it should - for the strep
> >> infection, and forgot to turn off.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >> From: email @ redacted
> >> To: email @ redacted
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:54:07 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [IP] Re: FDA Approved trial for 100 year old vaccine use on
> >> B T1
> >> D!
> >>
> >>  Thanks for posting the article link. B  B The article talks about
> >>> starting a 5-year clinical trial in people because when the vaccine is
> >>> given to mice, it apparently "eliminates the abnormal white blood
> >>> cells responsible for the autoimmune disease". B  B So . . . does this
> >>> mean the cause of T1D in humans has been unequivocally identified? B
> >>>
> >> No, Dr. Faustman believes she has identified the specific T-cell that
> >> attacks the beta-cells in the pancreas and has figured out a way to
> >> eliminate them. The cause of the T-cell activation remains unknown as
> >> far as I know.
> >>
> >> Michael
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