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Re: [IP] How much fat is too much?

John -  Why would anybody give their insulin intravenously?  Too dangerous!
A bad idea, in my humble opiniion.  Maybe you would know better how to, if
you're a DR or a professional - for the ordinary person, I believe that
oculd only lead to trouble!!!  Good luck!     Jane

You soound like you know a lot- but
-----Original Message-----
From: John Neale <email @ redacted>
To: email @ redacted <email @ redacted>
Date: Sunday, July 18, 1999 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [IP] How much fat is too much?

>> Well you might be right here, but I don't think it would be that easy to
>> predict those effects on the cardiovascular system.  It is very
>> and your genes are proabably the biggest factor. Too bad we can't just
>> our old genes and throw them in the wash :-)
>You have another option: choose a wife and have kids! (Which I believe
>you've done already. Perhaps theirs will be better :-)
>> Actually the opposite is true.  In control system analysis, adding delays
>> integrals will lead to instabilities.   Faster (even adding
>> the high tech) is better for stability.
>Che? I think we're throwing technical terms around out of context here...
so I
>won't go for the jugular. But a bit of damping in the right place is
>essential in
>feedback mechanisms.
>> For us pumpers, though, too fast absorption could cause problems mainly
>> because we often don't have a clue as to what our GI system is doing with
>> what we eat. However, I'd be happier with an insulin that worked about
>> twice as fast as humalog.  Any faster and I'd be worried.
>Wayne, have you tried giving yourself your insulin intravenously? In the
>like a heroin user. Regular works as fast as Humalog in that context, and
>gone from the system within 20 minutes. Just what you want... I'm not
>sure why this method isn't used at home more often. Bring down a
>mega-high in 20 minutes. No crash.
>Novo-Nordisk have a new lispro insulin called Rapid that is in the last
>of clinical trials in Europe. Within 6 months it should be licenced for
>here. I've no idea how far advanced the trials are in the US. For people
>have problems with Humalog, Rapid will be an option worth trying. It's
>possible it won't cause the same loss of absorbtion that Humalog causes
>> Yes, there are tremendous things going on in many research areas that
>> on diabetes.  I too think that the best solution will be found with
>> beta cells.  With the intense research going on in immunology, it think
it is
>> very likely that the rejection problem with foreign beta cells will be
>>solved in
>> the near future.  I think you can almost already get 3 month injections,
>> I'm looking toward 3 year (or longer) boosters.
>They harvest them from dead bodies don't they? Expensive and great risk of
>catching diseases from the donor I believe. The race is on to grow the
>things in laboratories. Then it can hit the mass market.
>> Maybe in even less than 10
>> years.   A word of warning to all you Minimed stock holders--don't hold
>> stock too long *S* -wayne
>Disetronic pumps are already being marketed hard as general drug delivery
>devices, in anticipation of a collapse of the insulin-delivery market...
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