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Re: [IP] Bg rise in a.m....
Since everyone keeps bringing up bagels... Noah's (the chain here which I
believe is Einstein's on the East Coast and I forgot what it is in New Mexico)
has a food value list I checked. All the varieties have between 59-66 grams of
carb per bagel. Most had 60 or 64. A large # had 62. Any chain store you go
to will have a list somewhere (though it is kind of embarrassing to ask to
look). What used to be Brother's here and I think is now either NY Bagels or
Boogie Woogie Bagel Boy also has bagels with very similar carb counts -- ie
everything on their list was between 60-64. Lenders and other mass
supermarket bagels are much smaller than these kind of bakery bagels though.
Bob Burnett wrote:
> Tonya and Bonnie:
> A couple things to think of here:
> 1) Dawn phenomenon can happen whenever "your dawn" is. If you normally wake
> up at 11:00 a.m., your body is getting into gear and synchronizing itself
> regardless of where the big and little hands are on the clock. If you see
> the same patterns in your BG when testing through the night, use this info
> to help determine when your dawn rise normally starts and ends. If your
> sleep schedule is never the same, it's a little harder to figure the
> patterns out.
> 2) For some folks, bagels fall into the same sort of category as pizza.
> There may be a delayed rise (sometimes significant) in your BGs sometime
> after you finish eating. I also notice a real difference in bagels,
> depending on the brand and type. I know Lender's has a number of different
> types. If I use the same insulin / carb ratio, I'll get different results
> from the different types of bagels. I've seen carb counts for bagels
> ranging anywhere from 30 grams of CHO per bagel to as high as 55 per bagel.
> For me, bagels have always been a little "chancy", but worth the gamble ;-)
> Tonya: what is your pre lunch BG reading if you have the same number of
> carbs, same amount of insulin, but something different than the bagel? This
> might help determine if its the food itself, the insulin / carb ratio, or
> the dawn effect which is causing the problem.
> 3) Mary Jean had a good suggestion for estimating breads and things, if
> the labels are not available.
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> Bonnie wrote:
> >Thanks for asking this. I have been wondering the same thing. If I were
> >eating what you ate for breakfast I would have to bolus about 7.5 or 8.
> >Just counting Carbs aren't always enough. Like the person who mentioned a
> >.. "chocolate donut was 7 plus 2 for later", I have had to learn how each
> >food reacts in me. Maybe your carb ration isn't right? How do you bolus
> >for the sugar on the bagel? I don't know what the scientific answer is,
> Tonya wrote:
> >Here's a question...
> >I wake up with a bg around 70 to 120. I faithfully eat my Lender's
> >cinnamon swirl bagel 38 carbs and drink a cup of milk =3D 12 carbs. I
> >bolus my 5 units (1:10 carb ratio). Before lunch check I am usually 250
> >or higher?!?!?!? If I'm too low waking up I am rebounding, I know, BUT
> >even if I am normal I go way too high!!! What could it be?!? Do I need
> >a different carb. ratio for breakfast? I DO have Pumping Insulin and
> >plan on reading it SOON!! Any ideas for me now though?!? -Tonya D.
> >P.S. Can dawn phenom. happen around 11:00?!? That's when I get up! :-)
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