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Re: [IP] Profile update for Barbra Bradley <email @ redacted>

I'm sorry but I have to agree with Buddy on this one.  I don't think
is dwelling in self-pity but more in reality.  He did not relay those
to obtain sympathy but more for purposes of illustration in making a
which I believe is this:

The nurse's sentiments are kindly taken and appear to be a very 
correct" symbol of the situation, but I think that wearing the
apparatus, such
as the pump, will acheive nothing more than an academic understanding
and in
fact may prove to be conterproductive to her endeavor to acheive more
for her patients.  After her experience is through, she might think the
experience is "easier" than she thought.. but is it?  Buddy is trying to
that she's only going to get a small taste of the whole pie and might
have slight contempt for those patients who complain of difficulty. 
worn it and it was no big deal so why should there be difficulty.  I
in a doctor/patient relationship there should remain some level of
to achieve truer objectivity.  
To get away from diabetes I'll choose a neutral subject, say blindness.
I want to gain empathy for blind people so I wear a blindfold for 24
Before the experience I could plainly tell you that I could never
being blind, and have the utmost empathy for those afflicted.
After the 24 hours, I may discover.. yeah, that really sucked, but I
dealt with
it, lived through it, and if I discover a blind person complaining about
plight I would tell them, yeah I was blind for awhile and I did it so
quit your
complaining about it.. but what I wouldn't realize is that there ain't
no cure
for it and I'd have to live with it for the rest of my life, and that
would haved
changed my outlook on it but you can't "feel" it because it's not

I'm not really saying it's a bad idea, I'm just trying to get buddy's
across in a different way.  And people don't like to rock the boat on an
issue like that.. It's kind of like political correctness when sometimes
it's not allowed to say how you really feel.  Sometimes, things "sound"
sweet in theory, but
may or may not achieve the desired results... I like to call it "fluff".

And Rachel, your comment sort of proves this point..So what, we have
diabetes right?, not a damn thing you can do about it, So why do we need
some Nurse to feel sorry for us? If she makes sure her patients achieve
maximum control she will have been a success.  If she remains objective
she will have no problems.. 

That's just what I think of it anyway..
Forrest Green

Rachel Sanita wrote:
> I may be out of place here but I have to make my comment as well.  Barbara,
> kudos to you!!  I thank you for at least trying to "understand" what we are
> going through.  Keep up the good work.
> NOW, i can't keep reading all these comments and not stop to say something.
>  I have never heard so much WOE IS ME attitude ever!!!  HOLY S.....!  Ok,
> we all have diabeties.  We didn't ask for it, we didn't do anything to
> "attract" it; but we have it.  Now live with it!  Be thankful that we have
> a disease we can somewhat "control".  Buddy, you make it sound as though i
> should pull out the ole violin and feel soooooooo sorry for you.  Yeah, it
> sucks having diabeties; but think about all the other people in this world
> that have brain cancer, ovarian cancer, Leukemia, MS, anything other than a
> disease that can be controled.
> I am now living with the fact that my mom has a malignant tumor in her
> brain and they are trying to figure out how delicate an operation it will
> be.  Yeah, I have diabeties......at this point......BIG WOOP!
> Now, that was my $10.95 comment
> Smile......it makes you more attractive!!
> rachel
> At 02:18 PM 12/7/97 -0600, you wrote:
> >Please refrain from the use of sarcasm. I am here with a sincere
> >>concern for my own patients.
> >
> >
> >Barbara,
> >    I told you in my post that there was no sarcasm intended. If you took
> >any that is not my fault. My only point is that educators and health
> >professionals can not start to understand what a diabetic has to deal with
> >and cope with by strapping a pump on a couple of weekends. I understand that
> >you are doing something to try and enlighten yourself on what we deal with
> >but in my opinion that is just like a new pumper having to go through a time
> >pumping saline! You don't learn how to shoot, (target practice) with blanks.
> >I understand your idea that you can see what it is like to connected to a
> >device for a while but try it with some insulin and experience a 35 BG and
> >cope with that a few times and see how you do with less brain cells. Do it
> >while you are at the mall and have no idea how you got there or where you
> >have been. See what it is like to "come to " someplace with a stranger
> >milling over you trying to find out who you are and what you have been
> >drinking and why so early in the morning!
> >    Yes, that is a good idea. . . . .  put something besides saline so you
> >can really see what we have to cope with. From what I have read they used to
> >use insulin for "shock treatment" in the mental hospitals. Yea, try that for
> >a week-end.
> >    I still admire you for all your efforts, don't get me wrong. I'm proud
> >of you. At least you are trying, most DOCTORS and other health care people
> >have no idea of what a diabetic has to deal with. one more thing, I have no
> >idea what it feels like to have cancer either but I would not go through
> >chemo therapy just to see what it is like.
> >    I mean no offense or sarcasm, this is just my opinion and I have a right
> >to it.
> >
> >Buddy '-)
> >
> >
> >
> >