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Why aren't you bitchin?


On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:48 PM, insulin-pumpers-digest wrote:

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> insulin-pumpers-digest     Tuesday, April 5 2011     Volume 12 : Number 070
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> This issue of the digest contains:
> RE: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1  small can
> RE: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1   small can
> Re: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1   small can
> RE: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1   small can
> Re: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1    small can
> RE: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1    small can
> [IP] Blood Glucose Testing
> Re: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1    small can
> RE: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can
> RE: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can
> Re: [IP] Blood Glucose Testing
> Re: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1     small can
> Re: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can
> RE: [IP] Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can
> [IP] Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can of juice
> RE: [IP] Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can
> RE: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1  small can
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> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 11:58:11 -0700
> From: Alan Segal <email @ redacted>
> Subject: Re: [IP] Blood Glucose Testing
> 
> IMHO think this is due to the un"Affordable Health Care Act".
> 
> My increases per month have been over $150.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Phyllis <email @ redacted> wrote:
> 
>> I was wondering how many people on Medicare as their primary use 10 or more
>> test strips/day.
>> How many test strips does Medicare pay for? Medicare and they payer, in my
>> case it is CIGNA, has decided that I only need 10 BG tests/day. They have
>> continued to deny coverage for more after submitting logs from CareLink,
>> Progress Notes and letters from doctors, and appeals from my supplier.
>> CIGNA/Medicare seems to think that 3 tests per day is adequate.
>> My secondary pays the co-pay based upon the amount Medicare pays.
>> Medicare always paid for 13 tests/day (6 years) until about 180 days ago.
>> 
>> Phyllis
>> Type I 62 years
>> MM insulin pump 23 years of the 62.
>> .
>> 
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> 
> Alan Segal
> "There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and
> those that don't"
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> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:09:54 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Marshall <email @ redacted>
 > Subject: Re: [IP] Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can
> 
> Well said!
> 
> 
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> ________________________________
> From: "Erickson, Morgan [FIN]" <email @ redacted>
> To: "email @ redacted" <email @ redacted>
> Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 2:05:47 PM
 > Subject: RE: [IP] Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small
> can
> 
 > I'm honestly surprised that this conversation has been allowed to go as long
as
 > it has, seeing as how it's strayed pretty far off what is normally accepted
as
> valid topics for the list.
> 
 > I find that there are 3 camps when it comes to the whole TSA (or other
security
> contractors for airports where TSA is not employed) issue.
> 
 > 1: Those who are willing to put up with just about any form of invasive
search
> under the belief that it is keeping us safe
> 
> or
> 
> 2: Those who disagree with the searches but allow them anyways because they
> still want to fly
> 
> Or
> 
> 3: Those who oppose the searches and refuse to fly because of them.
> 
 > As long as there are more people in camps 1 & 2 than in 3, we will continue
to
> allow TSA to molest us in the name of security.
> 
 > If the TSA says that diabetics can carry XY&Z, and we have XYorZ on us and
they
> hassle us in line, we have an obligation to 1) educate the moron hassleing us
 > until they have learned or 2 escalate the issue IMMEDIATELY to a supervisor
and
> as far up the food chain as necessary until they learn.
> 
> I don't buy the whole "they're just doing their job" excuse...especially when
> they are doing it wrong.
> 
> Morgan
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> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 19:20:22 +0000
> From: "Denise Neargarder" <email @ redacted>
> Subject: Re: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can
> 
 > I am not angry I don't spend my time getting worked up or waste my time
trying
> to fight what can't be fixed
> 911 was the start of all of this. Ok it happened we learned a good lesson and
> now we go on
> 
 > I can't understand what the big deal is yes we r diabetic we have supplies
that
 > doesn't give us special treatment. Its life this is who we are. Embrace it
get
> over it.
> I'm a mom a wife I work 40 hrs a week I am all over the place and I wouldn't
> change a thing
> So when I go to the airport I give myself extra time I am prepared and I know
> when I get where I'm going I am going to be with people that I care about and
> love
> 
 > Write your letters complain to who ever its not going to change things we
can't
> control what we can't control
> 
 > I don't call people doing their jobs morons. When you get a parking tix when
u
 > don't get a bill paid on time do you yell at the cop or customer service rep?
Or
> do u blame urself. You are in control of ur destiny time for people to take
> Responsibility for their own errors
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: "Erickson, Morgan [FIN]" <email @ redacted>
> Sender: email @ redacted
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:47:45 
> To: email @ redacted<email @ redacted>
> Reply-To: email @ redacted
> Subject: RE: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1
>  small can
> 
> I'm sorry...I'm not sure what prompted that response.
> 
> I'm not sure who you think is angry, me or you...Your statement confuses me.
> 
> My expertise is that these are all my opinions and I am an expert on my
> opinion.
> 
> Yes I've experienced tragedy, though I'm not sure what that has to do with
> this.
> 
> No, I'm not in law enforcement, though I'm not sure what that has to do with
> this.
> 
> When people fly, they give up their rights. They are VOLUNTEERING to be
> molested at TSA's whim. They enter that security area knowing FULL WELL that
> they must submit to whatever crazy, nonsensical, you've-got-to-be-kidding-me
> method of "detection" the TSA has dreamed up for the week.
> 
> Do I agree with the TSA's methods? No.
> Do I believe that TSA is effective at deterring terrorism? No.
> Do I believe that TSA is good at Security Theatre?  Absolutely.
> 
> That said, on the rare occasions that I DO fly with my diabetic daughter, we
> refuse to have her go thru x-ray, we refuse to remove her pump, and we refuse
> to
> allow her to be molested. Oddly enough, we're still allowed to fly.
> 
 > Of course, we've made the decision, as a family, that road trips are more
fun,
> we get to spend more time together, and no strangers get to touch our naughty
> bits.
> 
> Morgan
> 
> 
> 
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: email @ redacted
> [mailto:email @ redacted] On Behalf Of Denise Neargarder
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:23 PM
> To: email @ redacted
> Subject: Re: [IP] Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can
> 
> Wow.
>  Did you ever think that being so angry when stating an opinion is the Reason
> why things don't get done?
> What gives you the expertise to say the things you say? Have you experienced
> tragedy or are you in law enforcement? Maybe you just rant from you room on
> your
> computer.
> Maybe you should get out and Live Life
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: "Erickson, Morgan [FIN]" <email @ redacted>
> Sender: email @ redacted
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:05:47
> To: email @ redacted<email @ redacted>
> Reply-To: email @ redacted
> Subject: RE: [IP]  Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1
>  small can
> 
>  I'm honestly surprised that this conversation has been allowed to go as long
> as
 > it has, seeing as how it's strayed pretty far off what is normally accepted
as
> valid topics for the list.
> 
>  I find that there are 3 camps when it comes to the whole TSA (or other
> security
> contractors for airports where TSA is not employed) issue.
> 
 > 1: Those who are willing to put up with just about any form of invasive
search
> under the belief that it is keeping us safe
> 
> or
> 
> 2: Those who disagree with the searches but allow them anyways because they
> still want to fly
> 
> Or
> 
> 3: Those who oppose the searches and refuse to fly because of them.
> 
 > As long as there are more people in camps 1 & 2 than in 3, we will continue
to
> allow TSA to molest us in the name of security.
> 
>  If the TSA says that diabetics can carry XY&Z, and we have XYorZ on us and
> they
> hassle us in line, we have an obligation to 1) educate the moron hassleing us
 > until they have learned or 2 escalate the issue IMMEDIATELY to a supervisor
and
> as far up the food chain as necessary until they learn.
> 
> I don't buy the whole "they're just doing their job" excuse...especially when
> they are doing it wrong.
> 
> Morgan
> 
> 
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> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:36:52 -0400
> From: Julia R <email @ redacted>
> Subject: RE: [IP] Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can
> 
> Well said Morgan, and I am glad you are so aware of everything for your
> daughter's sake.  The only thing I would add is that TSA being able to do
> whatever they want to (they do something different every time, there is no
> established procedure that they all follow) can be changed by law and that is
> my mission is to get Congress to act on this so people do not have to refuse
> to fly so as not to be subject to these odious and unpredictable procedures.
> Several states have introduced laws making TSA pat-downs illegal, but that
> carries no weight without Federal law to back it up.
> 
> Julia
> MM 522
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> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:53:30 -0400
> From: "Jan H." <email @ redacted>
 > Subject: [IP] Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can of
juice
> 
> I cannot understand why the entire thread of this subject has to be included 
> in every reply. I know some of the responders are college-educated and 
> should certainly be capable of learning how to reduce the quoted texts to 
> something relevant. I believe most of us, by now, could probably quote the 
> whole thing verbatim. I have included nothing since the subject says it all. 
> YMMV
> 
> I learned how and have only 13 years of schooling (including a semester of 
> Kindergarten and 1 semester of 2 college classes)
> 
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> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 19:43:45 +0000
> From: "Erickson, Morgan [FIN]" <email @ redacted>
> Subject: RE: [IP] Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can
> 
> Thank you for fighting the good fight!
> 
> Morgan
> 
> 
> 
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: email @ redacted
> [mailto:email @ redacted] On Behalf Of Julia R
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:37 PM
> To: insulin pumpers
> Subject: RE: [IP] Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can
> 
> Well said Morgan, and I am glad you are so aware of everything for your
> daughter's sake.  The only thing I would add is that TSA being able to do
> whatever they want to (they do something different every time, there is no
> established procedure that they all follow) can be changed by law and that is
> my mission is to get Congress to act on this so people do not have to refuse
> to fly so as not to be subject to these odious and unpredictable procedures.
> Several states have introduced laws making TSA pat-downs illegal, but that
> carries no weight without Federal law to back it up.
> 
> Julia
> MM 522
> 
> 
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> 
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 19:47:41 +0000
> From: "Erickson, Morgan [FIN]" <email @ redacted>
 > Subject: RE: [IP] Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can
> 
> I'm sorry that you feel that this is a path that cannot be changed. I feel
> differently.
> 
> Some things are right and some things are wrong and good people need to stand
 > up when wrong things happen. If they didn't, American's would still be
British
 > citizens, there would be no Jewish people left in Europe, and black people
would
> still be slaves.
> 
> Closing our eyes to the issue, or just going along with the plan like sheep,
> does not make it better nor does it make it go away.
> 
 > You say you can't understand what the big deal is. The big deal is that the
TSA
 > has sold us a bill of goods and now terrorizes the citizen's of the US under
the
> guise of security from terrorism.
> 
> Terrorism: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism
>             - the use of...threats to intimidate or coerce.
> 
> I see the threat of jail and/or fines for not submitting to being molested by
> TSA as the perfect example of terrorism.
> 
> There are better ways to secure airplanes that would be FAR less invasive and
> inconvenient for passengers...unfortunately, there's no money to be made that
> way, so we get TSA.
> 
> I don't call everyone doing their job a moron. I call those who hide behind
 > inane policies, hidden agendas, and intimidation and fear morons. Were I to
get
 > a parking ticket for parking illegally, I'm the moron. If my lights get
turned
> off because I am late with the payment, I'm the moron.
> 
 > However, if someone grabs my junk and says that it's to keep the planes
secure,
> despite the fact that I went through THEIR x-ray machine or metal detector,
 > which obviously aren't accurate, then yes, they are morons. They either buy
into
 > the need to grab my junk, and are morons, or are spineless jellyfish,
refusing
> to stand up for what is right, and are, therefore, morons.
> 
> Morgan
> 
> 
> 
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: email @ redacted
> [mailto:email @ redacted] On Behalf Of Denise Neargarder
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:20 PM
> To: email @ redacted
> Subject: Re: [IP] Getting felt up at the damn airport AGAIN over 1 small can
> 
 > I am not angry I don't spend my time getting worked up or waste my time
trying
> to fight what can't be fixed
> 911 was the start of all of this. Ok it happened we learned a good lesson and
> now we go on
> 
>  I can't understand what the big deal is yes we r diabetic we have supplies
> that
 > doesn't give us special treatment. Its life this is who we are. Embrace it
get
> over it.
> I'm a mom a wife I work 40 hrs a week I am all over the place and I wouldn't
> change a thing
> So when I go to the airport I give myself extra time I am prepared and I know
> when I get where I'm going I am going to be with people that I care about and
> love
> 
>  Write your letters complain to who ever its not going to change things we
> can't
> control what we can't control
> 
 > I don't call people doing their jobs morons. When you get a parking tix when
u
> don't get a bill paid on time do you yell at the cop or customer service rep?
> Or
> do u blame urself. You are in control of ur destiny time for people to take
> Responsibility for their own errors
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
 > This e-mail may contain Sprint Nextel proprietary information intended for
the
> sole use of the recipient(s). Any use by others is prohibited. If you are not
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